do you think that the minsk group established of course by the osce and chaired by russia, france, as the united states, could still be the relevant platform to solve the outstanding issues? >> you see, we have a new situation in the south -- after the war a lot of last year, and, you know, minsk group co-chairs, they elaborated so-called madrid principles for the peaceful resolution of the conflict, which by the way, stipulated the withdrawal of troops from azerbaijan regions outside of former nagorno-karabakh. unfortunately, the principle was not implemented, and the armenian government abundant -- government abandoned the principles in the spring 2020. now we have a completely new situation. azerbaijan managed to liberate its occupied territories, and i think the if the minsk group should -- would like to be relevant, it should come come up with the new proposals, and these new proposals, i think, should reflect the reality. not even the reality, but the principles of international law, the basic principles of international law. i think the future of the region lies in the territor

. >> we need a new policy towards the east to revitalize the principle of the osce and a principal of the european union. i also say russia and other countries need to accept that european integration will continue. >> as the situation in afghanistan escalates, more and more people flee the taliban, the german government announced it will not deport asylum-seekers for now. scholz showed himself sympathetic to accepting refugees from various crisis regions, but he stressed the need to help create opportunities for refugees, and migrants and in other countries where they sought shelter. >> in my view, there is a responsibility to refugees who shelter in other parts of the world. in german european politics, i do not believe we are concerned about with what happens to them when different countries take them in. many countries are not governed the way we would expect in germany, but they offer protection. that is why they need to be prospects for integration in africa, asia and south america. we need to share responsibility and that. -- response ability in that. >> he is a pragmatist, sto