turn to you is the co-founder of a hose show you know welcome thank you now you are co-founder of osho we're out in las vegas and it's really a security conference could be the first. big security conference in crypto and yet for the very beginning security's been such a huge issue in crypto from the mt gox blow up to every single day things are blowing up people lose their wallets how come security hasn't gotten the attention that it deserves you know so that's a great question i think that what's happened is there's these these periods of influx in the markets where a whole bunch of new people come in and the people have already been off for the last period of like hacks and like all the alcott stuff and all these other things they kind of learned their lesson and they got burned a couple times and they do take siri security more seriously they demand from the wallets and the things that they use that they they go through a greater level of security diligence and process but then when all these newcomers come in they haven't had the experience of being burned there they're fresh to i