oskoui, dr.ozano, george washington hospital group or hospital has put out a warning about hydroxychloroquine citing that new york started that came out last week. that was the late stage, later stage patients that people would indicate you shouldn't take. coming up, biden emerges from the basement and holds a gaggle of a different sort. raymond aurora will has it all n "seen and unseen." s gone. ♪ >> laura: it is time for "seen and unseen" segment. we expose a big cultural stories of the week. all right, joe biden fumbles his way through another event and social distancing gets a little scary. joining us with the details, raymond arroyo fox news contributor. all right, raymond, do we have more joe down below? >> well, he has climbed the stairs so we is slightly less than below tonight. the biden campaign hold out a new weapon to jump-start its fund-raising efforts. >> hi, devon, hello, carol, does elizabeth moran. oh, my, wow! >> wow, didn't carol seemed thrilled, laura? lauren brought out the b

ramin oskoui and dr.tte lozano, owner of the medical center in texas treating her patients with hydroxychloroquine. doctor, let's go to you first. does all of that fall under the cdc? >> i suppose it most. the house appropriations committee keeps giving the money. but i think the pandemic is a stress test, ones that the cdc failed and i think resting on the laurel since 1950s. and we have been giving them money. i think that is something that has got to change. >> laura: dr. lozano, when people hear the lancets, like the job, the journal of medicinl or whatever it is, but that is the big publications. when the lancet criticizes trump, what shall be think? >> we can accept the medical journal has gone political, andt so we cannot justify their work as a legitimate research. >> laura: dr. lozano, quickly to you before i go back to the other doctor, the president said today that he is using a particular drug as a prophylactic against hydroxy. this is what he said. >> i'm taking hydroxychloroquine. >> i was w

oskoui. dr. oskoui, dr. smith is being very diplomatic. but dr. fauci came on this show and said we need controlled clinical trials, randomized studies before any statements could really be made. we had to proceed very carefully. what's going on here? what is happening? >> i think what's going on here are really two things for the first is overt ignorance of studies being done abroad. raoult the study in france showingprophylag home patients in south korea, i think what you're seeing is whether he means to or not, he's spiking these studies, by such negative input. the reality is that the article that was published last week was very poorly done. it was a conglomeration of data that did very little to parse patients. it was bad science. junk science. >> laura: i should say this and, dr. smith, you want to get in on this. a new study came up moments ago that showed significant outpatient benefit of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. my producer will tell me, it was a yale study? who was it? a yale university study. that just came out. we will bri

oskoui, particularly patients a particular rate, has to be given earlier. that's what we gotha from your analysis. in the hours after the hearing wrapped, the city of l.a. announced this. >> we aren't going to reopen los angeles or anywhere in america without any protections in the next three months. i think we know it's going to be longer than three months. we aren't going to go back to precovid-19 left anytime soon or jump forward to post covid-19 time until there's medicine or vaccine to allow that. >> laura: fauci said there is not likely any vaccine this fall. i guess we aren't going to open california. >> i'm flabbergasted. so much of what has been suggested here is not backed by actual data. the lockdown never had any real good data to support it. the understanding always with the lockdown was that it would blunt and therefore not overwhelm the health care system at one time. it was never going to be without risks. but to allow people like our city or dr. fauci to make these kind of decisions is to allow the head of walter reed to determine whether o