president obama is on his way to oslo. we have a great group to discuss the news of the day in 60 seblgds. >> larry: president obama, there you see him on on his way to oslo, norway. going to accept the nobel peace prize. they left a short while ago. they will be in oslo for about 26 hours before returning to the united states. the debate over whether or not he deserves the award is reignited. he will accept a $1.4 million prize check and a gold medal. coverage of the trip ceremony begins tomorrow an "american morning." our panel here to discuss that and other things, penn jillette, the more talkative half of penn and teller. and dben stein, and here in l.a, tanya acker, con truber to the huffington post and worked on the white house in the clinton administration. and in new york, stephanie miller, radio talk show host. stephaniemiller.com. we will be back after this. every time you take advil liqui-gels you're taking the pain reliever that works faster on tough pain than tylenol rapid release gels. and not only faster. st

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republicans were cheerleading the warlike speech in oslo. they will have the ninth cell of next year. the base will matter within the democratic party. host: what did you think? guest: rather than war-like i would characterize this as perhaps the best speech that the president has given since his inauguration speech. that is principally because he acknowledged something that we among the conservative pun docracy have been looking for -- as you said, norman, is because you recognize that there is indeed number one, evil in the world, and number two, recognition in the fact that for the last 60 years it has been the u.s. that has been the principal guarantee of stability and progress on things such as human rights. host: let me share an excerpt from the president's speech from oslo on thursday as he talked about the line getting a lot of attention -- the so-called just wars. >> i do not bring with me today a definitive solution to the problems of war. what i do know is that meeting these challenges will require the same vision, hard work, and

host: let -- back to the president's speech in oslo. president tried to address history in terms of the evil we have faced in this country and around the world. >> another is nothing week, nothing passive, nothing naive in the greed and lives of gandhi and dr. king, but as the head of state sworn to protect and my nation, i cannot be guided alone by their principals. i face the world as it is an cannot be idle in the face of threats to american people. big mistake, evil does exist in the world. and non-violence movement cannot have halted hillers armies. negotiants cannot convince al qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms. to say that force may sometimes be necessary it is not a call to cynicism. it is a recognition of history. the imperfections of man and the limits of reason. host: mark? guest: this is a very commendable recognition of reality. people in positions like the president must make decisions based on the way the world is not simply the way that we wish was. guest: it was a slick rhetorical maneuver by the president to not c

he told reporters in oslo he's sticking to his plan to start u.s.oop withdrawals in july of 2011. but he promised the pull-out will be gradual. >> i think it's very important to understand that we're not going to see some sharp cliff, some precipitous drawdown. our whole concept here is to train and partner with afghan forces and to transfer to them even as our troops are fighting alongside each other. >> sreenivasan: meanwhile, general mcchrsytal the u.s. commander in afghanistan, played down concerns about the timetable. he told a house hearing that insurgents will see the u.s. commitment and realize: "a date doesn't change anything". defense secretary gates has arrived in iraq from afghanistan. he met today with iraqi president jalal talabani to offer u.s. help, after the baghdad bombings on tuesday. the attacks killed 127 people. today, the umbrella group for al qaeda in iraq claimed responsibility. and it warned: "the list of targets has no end." a week-long winter storm left much of the midwest and northeast in a deep freeze today. at least 17

and we will hear from president obama from oslo as he accepts the nobel peace prize. just a fw minutes. we thought you would like the flavor and we will record the entire iran does not work and to show it live on c-span2. let me ask you about the concern over banks' lending. how do you do that and at the same time not encourage excessive risk-taking which everyone seems to say is the heart of what happens in the past couple of years. guest: with a pendulum in the other direction. we had to loose lending and now we are going overly restrictive, people who have had good credit, years with a credit card company and bank suddenly finding they cannot refinance their mortgage. one late payment and suddenly 28% interest rates. we have an over correction. that over timeç will balance itselfñr out. ççbut i think the general feeg is this economyç with a 10% unemployment rate, it is not a good time to have loose lending standards anyway so i think it will be a tight credit environment. host: secretary geithner talk about the extension of the tarp program. guest: $700 billion

. ♪ >> wdruff: the president walked into the city hall oslo, a wartimleader, on hand accept the mostrestigious pre bestowed on peacemakers. it was paradox not lost on him. >> perhaps the mt profound issue surroundg my receipt of this prize is the fa that i am thcommander-in-chief of the military of a nation in e dst of two wars. >> woodruff: just last wk mr. obamordered 30,000 more u.s. troops to afghantan, on top of 2100 he sent earlier this year that tension, between his actions as commander in chf, anhis advocacy of peace, animated much of the 36-nute address. >> we are atar, and i'm responsiblfor the deployment of thousands of ung americans to battle a distant land. some will kill, and me will be killed. and so i comhere with an acute sense of the costs of med conflict, >> woodruff: the president acknowleed as he did when the prize was announced in oober, that he does n claim to have eaed the award based on his brief ti in office. >> compared some of the ants of history who've receiv this prize, schweitzer and king; marshallnd mandela, my accomplhments are slight. >>oodruff: he a

host: let -- back to the president's speech in oslo.ried to address history in terms of the evil we have faced in this country and around the world. >> another is nothing week, nothing passive, nothing naive in the greed and lives of gandhi and dr. king, but as the head of state sworn to protect and my nation, i cannot be guided alone by their principals. i face the world as it is an cannot be idle in the face of threats to american people. big mistake, evil does exist in the world. and non-violence movement cannot have halted hillers armies. negotiants cannot convince al qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms. to say that force may sometimes be necessary it is not a call to cynicism. it is a recognition of history. the imperfections of man and the limits of reason. host: mark? guest: this is a very commendable recognition of reality. people in positions like the president must make decisions based on the way the world is not simply the way that we wish was. guest: it was a slick rhetorical maneuver by the president to not come to terms

. >> on thursday, in oslo, norway, president obama received the nobel peace prize. his extraordinary efforts to diplomacy and cooperation between people. here is his interest to the ceremony. we'll also hear from the chairman of the nobel committee. this last about one hour 40 minutes. >> welcome to oslo, where president barack obama will receive the nobel peace prize for 2001. the choice of candidates has caused surprise, enthusiasm and criticism around the world. the result is unusually great media [inaudible] about the 1000 guests that gathered to honor barack obama, who arrived in oslo this morning. they will honor the president obama today. he brought with him about 30 guests to the ceremony and his wife, michelle obama. the laureate is on his way up to the main entrance of the city hall, coming from the palace where they have been meeting with the king, the queen and the crown prince. 50-60 representatives of the american media are also here to cover this event to take place a short time after the announcement that 30,000 more troops will be sent to the afghan

. >> lehrer: you would expect him to make a good speech, accepting the nobel peace prize in oslo. >>no -- this was a difficult speech for him. just in the circumstances of it because nothing became his accepting of this nobel peace prize, 80% of his fellow citizens according to polls thought he did not deserve, nothing became it like the speech subpoena accepting it. i mean it was a sense that he was receiving the award not for who he was but for who he wasn't in large part. and he wasn't george w. bush. he had to change the policies. he believes in national company raise and he went in there and --. >> lehrer: what about the speech. >> i thought the speech was -- i thought the speech being remembered -- i thought the moment at which obama defined himself internationally, he answered problems that he had -- being apologetic about the united states. it was an aggressively unapologetic speech of being a world citizen it was an aggressively national speech in the true sense of the word. and you know, i am amazed that to this moment i can't find anybody who has criticized the speech. i h

. >> lehrer: he was originally going to go right after oslo. >> that's right.but they wanted him to postpone that trip to get there at the most meaningful time. you know, he had two deadline events. he has gotthelf care at home , and copenhagen in the climb at change. and you can put a spin, i guess, it was a victory of sorts but they didn't get what they had hoped for. there is no question about it. and i think that's -- you know, it's not a stinging rebuke by any means. but it is not the triumph that he needs. >> i'm sort of struck by the fact that following what happened with howard dean and health care this week, another disappointment for the left, and i guess you could say most of the environmental groups are on the left who had expected more i think of the obama presidency and certainly expected more of the cap and trade that it would be more aggressive that it would actually get passed and that is pretty much deadlocked, stagnated in the u.s. senate. so on a couple major issues the people that elected the president and i guess you could throw in afghani

the president leaves tonight for the climate summit, then will stop in oslo to receive his nobel peacehose are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. we'll cover a second day of the afghanistan strategy, hearing from general petraeus, the head of u.s. central command and u.s. ambassador to afghanistan, carl eikenberry. live coverage begin beginning at 10:00 eastern and on c-span radio and at c-span.org. this afternoon, a senate homeland subcommittee looks at how government ensures diplomatic security. the state department spends nearly $2 billion a year on a security force of more than 30,000 agents an law enforcement professionals. that hearing is live at 2:30 eastern on c-span 3 and at c-span.org. tomorrow live coverage of the nobel peace prize ceremony from oslo, norway, president obama the recipient this year, beginning at 7 a.m. eastern, live coverage on c-span 2 and also on-line at c-span.org. this week, continuing coverage on the healthcare debate, commercial free. now the latest update from the reporters an editors of the congressional roll call greep. c-span has partner

that's why we honor those who return home from peace keeping and training abroad to oslo and rome, ottawapoint about the use of force. even as we make difficult decisions about going to war, we must also think clearly about how we fight it. the nobel committee recognized this truth in awarding its first prize for peace to the founder of the red cross and a driving force behind the geneva conventions. where force is necessary, we have a moral and strategic interest in binding ourselves to certain rules of conduct can. and even as we confront a vicious adversary that abides by no rules, i believe the united states of america must remain a standard bearer in the conduct of war. that is what makes us different from those whom we fight. that is a source of our strength. that is thigh i prohibited torture -- why i prohibited torture, that is why i ordered the prison at guantanamo bay closed, and that is why i have reaffirmed america's commitment to abide by the geneva conventions. we lose ourselves when we compromise the very ideals that we fight to defend. [applause] and we honor, we honor tho

and in fact if you look at the president's speech in oslo today, he spoke about this not only in theontext that you highlighted, of the human rights abuses or cases in darfur, burma, zimbabwe, but he explains that this approach of engagement and pressure for which there is no magic formula, no cookie-cutter model is in fact the basis of our approach in many complex situations from your rant to zimbabwe or burma. >> i'd like to just tell the audience, remind you guys that if you have questions for ambassador reiss, please write them down now. i'm going to come to the conclusion of my questioning pretty soon and then give you an opportunity to ask questions. i want to have one more question on sudan if i could that in the gears before president obama took office, many of the people who now are in the administration, including ourselves were quite in favor of the greater pressure on khartoum, sanctions, possibly even military actions which you've raised on a couple of different settings. i think there was an expectation among some of our activist friends here in the audience that the ad

to oslo just this week.the president will not put off his trip to copenhagen in or wages because of the senate. >> [unintelligible] >> if you ask the president whether he is really on vacation or any president, one call, one report, one piece of information i can assure you can change all of that in a heartbeat. i'll come back to you. just to talk through the upcoming trip to copenhagen and his thoughts on that. we will have more information today or later today on a similar meeting with business executives and ceo's that are supportive of comprehensive climate change -- a comprehensive climate change agreement. i'm sorry. >> what happens to the july 2011 date if they are unable to address corruption and train a significant number of soldiers in time? >> suffice to say, we will not figure that in june 2011. the president addressed a series of steps that would be taken at both that level and underneath the national government level as to how to address the delivery of basic services without corruption. there

i think perhaps the next one, but i do not want to get caught up in that oslo feeling.he won the election, made some tough decisions in afghanistan, and began a tough fight of health care. the fruits of this will be next year and beyond. george bush left approval ratings in the low 30's. at this time of year, his numbers were probably around 70. so it is all in front of us for president obama, and we have to remember that. we need to take a deep breath with these polls. 53 -- 53% approval ratings when you have 10% unemployment? that is pretty impressive. guest: there is a fallacy that we fall into, assuming that trend follow current projections, six months later we could be saying that he was great, or maybe he was just as bad as a push. host: is there a concern on your part that the bush administration, clinton administration, obama administration will be defined by the polls and other than by the offense, or how they handle them -- events, or how they handle them? guest: i do not think so. bush left with a record low numbers. guest: truman left office with lower numbe

host: let us look at comments the president made in oslo. >> america's commitment to global securityre diffuse and complex, america cannot act alone. america alone cannot secure the peace. this is true in afghanistan. this is true in failed states like somalia, where tourism and piracy is joined by famine and human suffering people -- terrorism and paris is joined by famine and human suffering. -- terrorism and piracy is joined by famine and human suffering. this will be true for years to come. leaders and allies demonstrate this truth through the courage they showed in afghanistan. but in many countries, this is a disconnect between the efforts of those who served andç the ambivalence of the broader public. i understand what war is not popular, but i also know this -- the belief that peace is desirable is rarely enough to achieve it. peace requires responsibility to. peace entails sacrifice. amt was the international reception to the president's words in reference to our allies and making a unified effort in afghanistan? guest: it was not hostile, but i don't think it made an overw

oslo were -- in 19 '60s, a slower craig computer cost $10 million.proach is $0. storage and the efficiency possible from cloud computerinig have allowed people to use data in ways that whenever feasible or even conceivable for. pedro targeting is one of the many ways that companies can use data to try to tease out which consumers or ip addresses are uniquely identifiable cookies are more likely to respond to a particular ad. those who attended the workshop on the future of journalism know that a number of speakers spoke about the importance of revenue from targeted -- from targeting and funding journalisms. there are benefits such as more relevant advertising, but as we all know, costs in terms of privacy. those were still reverberates -- those words still reverberates today. that fundamentally change the privacy landscape in a way that justice brandeis would have been completely unfamiliar. without a real understanding of the ways in which their information is handled or transferred. take internet advertising. how many consumers or the ones outside

i think perhaps the next one, but i do not want to get caught up in that oslo feeling.he won the election, made some tough decisions in afghanistan, and began a tough fight of health care. the fruits of this will be next year and beyond. george bush left approval ratings in the low 30's. at this time of year, his numbers were probably around 70. so it is all in front of us for president obama, and we have to remember that. we need to take a deep breath with these polls. 53 -- 53% approval ratings when you have 10% unemployment? that is pretty impressive. guest: there is a fallacy that we fall into, assuming that trend follow current projections, six months later we could be saying that he was great, or maybe he was just as bad as a push. host: is there a concern on your part that the bush administration, clinton administration, obama administration will be defined by the polls and other than by the offense, or how they handle them -- events, or how they handle them? guest: i do not think so. bush left with a record low numbers. guest: truman left office with lower numbe

drive show on public radio international, as well as the idea of a liberal president that goes to oslo accept a peace prize and remind the committee that they would not be free without the ability to use force. in some ways, a very historic speech." "approximately 47 million americans will be second with swine flu from april to mid november. 9820 of them died on thursday. -- thursday appeared well -- 9820 have died as of thursday." knoxville, tennessee. caller: the first three callers were right on the money. i would rather go to jail than have the government in my life. i was recently laid off. i was perfectly happy with my health care. they need to focus on jobs. that is where the focus needs to be, getting the jobs and stop attacking the private sector. this is the big power grab. thank you. host: gary, indiana. good morning. caller: i am going to leave a couple of comments and echo the sentiments of the caller that just called in. the american people cannot be taxed any further. this is too much. i also want to comment on the speech from president obama yesterday. it was a spectacu

the president gave a great speech in oslo this morning. for the countries of responsibility.cannot get it done. >> i think a part of it is probably our own fault. i do none of the we ever really explained are made available the understanding. you could save an enormous amount of money. i could make a good business case today. i could show you the commercial airlines will save a billion gallons of fuel a year. that is pretty easy to compute. it'll be $2 billion in savings. anybody would say this is a great deal. we need to do a better job on the business side. there is a to the point of equipment. until some mass developed people who have the equipment, the air force did not benefit in traffic as the benefit from it. i use the analysis of the hd cable operator. i will be the box when you get enough channels. and you say i will get the channels when enough people buy the boxes. we need to get the point when we need to do it. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. senator demand did not make a statement. did you have something to say? >> thank you. thank you for your persistence

host: let us look at comments the president made in oslo. >> america's commitment to global security who served andç the ambivalence of the broader public. i understand what war is not popular, but i also know this -- the belief that peace is desirable is rarely enough to achieve it. peace requires responsibility to. peace entails sacrifice. amt was the international reception to the president's words in reference to our allies and making a unified effort in afghanistan? guest: it was not hostile, but i don't think it made an overwhelming impression. if i could just talk a minute about the issue of allies in afghanistan, there is a fundamental difference between the american public and most european publics that i have had contact with. americans tend to accept that there is a security reason that we are in afghanistan for national security. the question is can we do it, is it possible, and are we messing it up? with many european publics, when you get to questions of why troops are in afghanistan, the answers will be about allied solidarity, working with the americans, sustaining c

the president gave a great speech in oslo this morning talking about responsibility. we cannot get it done. what is your theory? >> i think part of it is our own fault. i do not know we never really explained permit available to the understanding of the savings that were available. we did not make the business case, if you will. i can make a good business case today. commercial airlines will save 1 billion gallons of fuel a year. it is $2 billion in savings. this is the only costs $6 billion. anybody would say this is a good deal. i think the other side of it, there is a to pinpoint. until something is developed where people have the equipment, airports do not benefit. i use the analogy of the cable operator and you want me to buy the box. i will by the box if you have enough channels. i think we finally have come to the. whereupon you need to put the channels on and you need to buy the box. >> thank you. the ranking member of the subcommittee did not make a statement. did you have something to say? >> thank you. thank you for your persistence on safety. i would like

caller: i believe that president obama in his rhetoric particularly at the oslo in that wonderfully crafted but we need to see if his actions really match his words. he spoke movingly about our floor, the protestors on the streets of iran, hundreds of thousands and rapes in the congo and yet his administration and his state department has been noticeably silent. the protestors in iran with a play on words on obama said first that he is with us and then they said are you with us? really questioning whether he was with the protesters in iran, for example, and they've done nothing much about darfur and he said we need to defend ourselves and yet we have troops in iran and in afghanistan who are plagued by ieds that come from iran and in the case of iraq they come from syria. and in addition, iran has threatened genocide against israel and yet the president's whole obsession seems to be in ending even modest improvements to homes in what he considers the occupied territories including much of jerusalem. so i think we need to see if his actions really are moderated from the extreme left position

the president gave a great speech in oslo this morning talking about responsibility. we cannot get it done. what is your theory? >> i think part of it is our own fault. i do not know we never really explained permit available to the understanding of the savings that were available. we did not make the business case, if you will. i can make a good business case today. commercial airlines will save 1 billion gallons of fuel a year. it is $2 billion in savings. this is the only costs $6 billion. anybody would say this is a good deal. i think the other side of it, there is a to pinpoint. until something is developed where people have the equipment, airports do not benefit. i use the analogy of the cable operator and you want me to buy the box. i will by the box if you have enough channels. i think we finally have come to the. whereupon you need to put the channels on and you need to buy the box. >> thank you. the ranking member of the subcommittee did not make a statement. did you have something to say? >> thank you. thank you for your persistence on safety. i would like

host: oslo, norway, as the president accepted the peace prize, he talked about this being a just war. the same vision, hard work, and persistence of those men and women who acted so boldly decades ago. it will require us to think in new ways about the notions of just war and the imperatives of a just peace. we must begin by acknowledging a hard truth. we will not eradicate violent conflict in our lifetimes. there will be times when the nation's, acting individually or in concert, will find the use of force not only necessary but morally justified. host: when you look at his first year in office, was that speech a defining moment? guest: i thought that was a great speech. it was a magnificent speech. i am glad we had a president who was capable of making that space. there was an iron age in in going there to -- there is an irony in going there to accept a peace prize. i thought he handled that very well. cohis problem with afghanistan s tricky. that was a campaign pledge. all these people who are now on the left, were they not listening when he said that? did he expect him to come into

. >> i would point to what the president said in his speech in oslo.ions post the revolution that you are talking about, in order to seek greater human-rights, it is something that we all support. i refer you back again to what we talked about earlier with iran. they have an opportunity to take steps to fulfill their international responsibilities. we not only have not seen that from the iranians, we have actually seen, throughout the course of this year and the past several years, attempts to very much hide what their activities were. this administration, working through the iaea and its allies, have taken steps to bring the international community along. if iran fails to live up to those obligations by the end of the year, we will take our next steps. >> does the white house believe that this statement at a positive effect on demonstrators that showed up around his funeral? >> i have not heard directly from nsc on that. >> coming up with the budget that we are about a month and a half away from, in the contract in remarks earlier this week, the presi

president obama will be traveling to the summit and then on to oslo to receive his nobel peace prize. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >> the senate has started debate on health care bill. majority leader harry reid has warned senators to expect evening and weekend sessions. follow the entire debate on c- span2, and go to c-span's healthcare hub. >> 3 original documentaries from c-span now available on dvd. a journey through the three branches of american government. the supreme court through the eyes of the justices. go beyond the velvet ropes of public tours into the rarely seen places of the white house. explore the history, art, and architecture of the capital, one of america's most symbolic structures. order online at [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] host: which continue from the national archives. it opened in 1935 to the roosevelt administration. we want to welcome congressman gerry connolly. we are going to talk about health care and afghanistan. first, we turn to one of the

last week in stockholm and oslo, the 2009 noble laureates accepted their prizes. we awd all be aproud that -- we should all be proud that 11 of the 13 prizes were won by americans. this is -- as a -- my honoree today holds the distinction of having been the first federal employee to win a noble prize in physics for work performed while serving the public. our federal workplace compose of citizens who are highly educated an incredibly motivated. dr. william philips is the perfect example. a native pennsylvanian, william learned the importance of public service and hard work from a young age. his hour, an immigrant from italy, and his father, a descendant of the american revolutionaries were the first in their families to attend college. they both pursued careers as social workers in pennsylvania's coal mining region. william, along with his brother and sister, grew up in a home where reading an education were emphasized. as a boy william fell in love with science and tinkered with modern rockets and chemical compounds in the basement of his family's home. while att

the president gave a great speech at oslo this morning talking about responsibility of all countries to do all kinds of things, and you know, we don't, we can't get it done. what is your theory of that? >> i think part of it is probably our own fault. i don't know that we ever really explained or made available to the understanding in the savings that were available. we didn't make the business case it the will that you can save an enormous amount of money. fica make a good business case today. i can show you that the commercial airlines will save a billion dollars in fuel. that is 2 billion in savings in the system only cost $6 billion. anybody with a business sense would say this is a great deal. i should have one of these. so we should be doing a better job in the business case. until some of mass is developed for people who have the equipment, the airports don't benefit and the traffic doesn't benefit from it. i have used the analogy of hd cable operator and he wanted to buy the box. i will buy the box when you have enough channels and i will put enough channels on when enough of