there was oswald mosley in the uk and the left—wing populist she we longed over in the us. —— she wehose outside parties have been relatively contained in western democracies since the end of the second world war but now they are here and they are here and we are very worried. the 30s can also be remembered for a us led tariff for disrupting trade added to the disintegration of international cooperation. i've also think is use a very tricky at the moment in terms of the breakdown of what had very secure international organisations, especially the eu and nato for all its faults and the seem to be under great pressure. if you lose the structure of international collaboration, such as they are, which allow people to think internationally, then it is lost and in the 19305, internationalists were very difficult to find. at vast pro- nazi gathering carrying a pro— nazi campaign of back to germany. historians are never keen on glib comparisons, particularly to the 305. by reaching to the most familiar piece of history, can see other parallels. we've got to be careful of this 19305 compariso

and diana mosley, the wife of oswald mosley, was always in berlin. years ago. i've talked to diana mosley shortly before she died. this was on tape for the radio. i said, died. this was on tape for the radio. isaid, what died. this was on tape for the radio. i said, what would you say if hitler walked into this room now, and she said, with the big blue eyes, i should say, how very nice to see you. she probably would have! it isa see you. she probably would have! it is a vanished world. i wrote a book called 17 carnations recently and it was about that era. and one ribbentrop was the one who sent 17 carnations to mrs simpson to remember of the 17 times that they had been intimately together, to put it politely. that really shook me up. i thought she had been entirely faithful to somebody called the prince of wales, but obviously not. you're fascinated what goes on behind the lace curtain. yes, that is where all the happiness, the i0ys. is where all the happiness, the joys, the tragedy, the anger, the envy, the hatred, the greed, any emotion you can na