i think it was the younger otero.re all in the kitchen -- they were making sandwiches. >> male or female? >> the younger. the junior. >> rader says to keep the family calm he made up a story about why he was there. >> mr. otero actually stepped up and told them i was coming for some food, i was wanted in california, i needed some food and water and some money and transportation. that was my ruse to kind of calm them down. he kind of laughed a little bit. is this a joke? who sent you? my brother-in-law? >> rader says the family bought his lie about being on the run from the law and not wanting to hurt them. and so at gunpoint, they acquiesced to his tying up all four of them, mother and father, and younger son and daughter, without a struggle. >> they were cooperating with me 100%. that probably was their demise. if they struggled, it probably would have been a different story. they felt fairly comfortable that is what i was going to do. >> as rader tells the story, like he does so often, he paints his own conduct in t