otero: my dad found a job at cook airfield.amily-owned airfield on the outskirts of wichita, and he was hired as a mechanic. hatteberg: wichita, kansas, was in the middle of america, and nobody locked their doors. it was a great little town to be from. ♪ january 15, 1974 started out different. i asked my dad to take me to school early that day so that i could get an extra study hall in. my brother and sisters, danny and carmen, they went with me. joe drops those three older kids at school, and he returns back home and joins his wife, julie, in getting the two younger kids ready for school. they're doing typical stuff -- making school lunches, gathering backpacks, getting ready for julie to drop those kids off, when the unthinkable happens. ♪ singular: he goes into the house. he draws his gun. one of the first things that he does is cut the telephone cord, and then he tells them that he just wants their car and some money and if he can tie them up and he can get the money in the car, he'll leave them alone. relph: the killer bou

otero.ry, very hard. i didn't have a mask on or anything. they already could i.d. me. it was once again that feeling of my chest being ripped open, had come back to me. and made a decision to go ahead and -- and put 'em down. otis: he recited them like he was reading a book. ♪ and that was spine-chilling. otero: everybody asks me, "do you forgive him?" all i can say is, i can't lie to you -- no. as far as, like, his punishment goes, i hope he lives a long, rotten life. you know, i don't forgive him. i know that's a problem i have as a christian. the lord knows how i feel about it. when i hear the name "dennis rader," the first thing that comes to mind is disgust. dennis rader has never really truly apologized for anything he's done, has never truly apologized to the victims' families, has never, i feel, felt remorse for what he did. otero: it was a great family. my mom was great, she really was -- and my dad. and that's why, when i do these interviews, one of the reasons why is just, for one

more bolshevik thefts of people's valuables, this our interlocutor wrote a book about the detective oteroo brought out the underground, that's stupid. maraz they provoked everything. let's be objective. if we say one thing, then we will talk about something else. who is to blame, who provoked are right, categorical denial, so to speak, that someone is specifically to blame, but i think that if it can, so to speak, there were fashionable dictatorships. with a light feed of our big northern neighbor torture detective. here they are not used. no, he did not use them, everyone admits it. and who suggested torture here? already in jail. yes, they were defeated and our elites lost their way , there was a feeling of impunity for those who continued to try to organize the disappearance and so on, no longer any partisans, which was terrible. this is the viciousness, political and spiritual rot always inherent in fascism, and this one, but a form of authoritarianism that tries to maintain a hierarchical order and thinks that it can control people like sheep, one and all dictatorships. in south amer