following year 1959 paul robson came to play owe dothel -- othello. those years black actors came in their skills it's the first time we casted an entirely black cast. there's no shortage of really, really exceptional talent in the uk. >> rose: is voice specially important in shakespeare? >> it is. it's very important because in the prologue to romeo and julie juliet he says it. it's about how the language can create the magic, i think. >> rose: what was the hardest thing for you to do? you developed this in south african in 1995? >> that was a special, special experience. the -- it was with the national theater studio. we were invited. my partner and i were invited as part of a team that went out to the market theater in johan he isberg to begin to explore the ending of sanctions and artistic boycotts that we would try to really open up lines of communication, artistic relationships. and the guy who ran the markets asked me and tony if we would go and do a play there. the play we chose to do was titus because quite often it's the goriest play. people