have a chance to sort of take any formal action, if we wanted to, and on it or a lengthy discussion, othis is just a opportunity for the commissioners to talk it out more and if there is a motion, please formulate that and present that, and if not, we will just entertain a couple of comments, and we will move on. >> this was to the commissioner to my right and so do you have anything to say commissioner hyde? >> one of the reasons to have the conversation is that it came to the hearing and a lot of people showed up and they feel that they are constituents and they feel that they are coming to us i know that we don't have the ability to chance or regulate ten b but i think that the reason that i would like to have a discussion here, is to see if the commission can in some way help to find the help that they need by requesting that the board of supervisors as a neighborhood representative, there are hardly ever types when the representatives come here and they are having a problem and it is a problem that for them to be able to have entertainment that is community building, and if we don't h