and given it father's name in some women don't during this time and i was wondering why is mercy otis warren but abigail adams? is that a choice, their choice? >> i think you'll see that she is often just referred to and some of her books to the bones heavily for just mercy warren and we hear about her a lot as mrs. warren. more than anything in you know in all of the newspapers and never use the woman's name and only use the very name, the husband's name. so i think that continues well to the 19th century. as a tradition. but mercy, the otis i think must have been a part in some ways because of her brother james and the paycheck of us. and thank you. another question? >> in large part of the biography and least for the beginning is about her brother and then there are a lot of press about her husband and i want you to comment whether or not it seems strange that in a biography about mercy warren and there isn't much about other members of her family? >> as a good question and particularly in his men but you have to understand as i said of the voiceless women of the 18th-century so we don't

another person who went against robert morris was mercy otis warren. she is the high priestess of the revolution and she is very puritanical, from new england, great,, great grandfather came on the mayflower. she is the brother of james otis who is the first will not patriot who starts, he is the one who argues the case. she becomes the patriots in your own rights. she is very close with john adams until john adams starts in her mind betraying the revolution by getting to much into power and when mercy otis won the rights of history she this is her best friend to know and. these two older patriots go at it, this woman writer who until her history did everything anonymously. she was a very prominent and the federalist and she had to write anonymously. she wrote these eating satires and honestly. who by then had been president of the united states. she won't back down an inch. she says he betrayed the revolution, because you know by usurping too much power. anyway, she hates robert morris because she is in to hear republican virtue and morris is just a hi

mercy otis warren is the moral one and he is not the man of the people, but that shows you just, anyway so many stories. i could just go on forever. i urge you to conjure your own favorite patriot. as you read this book, wouldn't this be fun? read the book and a lot of people know a little bit about one person or another. put your person in there. .. >> i am listening on recorded books driving over here and willis and going back to the history of jacksonian at ameritech called the waking giant. >> there are predictions that books might go the way of news that is all digital the amazon candles out there. i tend to like that. i like the book in my hand but i am also a oldcastle >> hi everybody. i want to say to those of the forbearance those of you who are due, welcome aboard. i am sure all of you knew that close-up remains a gold standard for education programs in washington d.c.. thank you for participating. i will introduce you to a gentleman who has been associated with close-up for many years. joseph sohm has been called many things some of which are repeatable even though we have a

>> next, nancy rubin stuart on the life of mercy otis warren who was the first female historian of the american revolution. she was encouraged by john adams to write the history of the rise, progress and termination of the american revolution that was published in 1805 and that is the topic of her book. she spoke at the john hay library at brown university in providence, rhode island for a little over an hour. >> thank you very much. it is a pleasure to be here. and have a chance to share with you some of the things i have learned, but before i tell you things i have learned, i am going to ask you a few questions, so, let's think about a few characteristics and i would like to ask you when you think these happened. the first one is a dangerous dependence on overseas goods. the second one is crashing land values. the third one is a rapidly depreciating national currency. the fourth one is shabby treatment of veterans. the fifth one is suppression of civil rights. so, what year to you think we are talking about? any ideas? today? [laughter] the 1780's in the's revolutionary period, and m