john had known mercy otis warren and her husband james warren before. and as i say, when they first met, they first talked about child rearing and the revolution among themselves. i think that was the ghost of mercy otis warren. a powerful personality. but -- and then from there they went on. well, that book originally, i was going to call it "dare i say more." mercy very strong-minded but afraid what people would think of her. she writes, and abigail encourages her -- she's already written two plays anonymously, but abigail encouraged her, as john did, to write sort of a spoof on the boston tea party. and she does that, and she has the squabble of the senims. but mercy gives it up and she thinks john should do it. abigail is definitely advocating for that. abigail is a lot younger than mercy. she was 29 when mercy was 45 and mercy's children are almost all grown. she has five sons. and abigail looks at her with wonder and talks about her, quote, well-ordered household. but once john leaves for the continental congress and mercy encourages her to -- but