we ought to have, we ought to have, if we're going to have ryan, we ought to have ryan and have to ask what bernie sanders has to say about tearing our country down. >> you're right on the left. as you were talking, bernie sanders, marco rubio is in a florida event. that's a must win with all the 99 delegates there. having worked for you and covered you, i can remember a few ru kous shareholder meetings when you were dealing with those not quite concurring with what you were doing. this was in the middle of the downsizing, yo you dealt with lot of nasty protesters. that's what i'm asking. for dealing with it. >> look, you want to let the protesters have their voice. be courteous to them. let them be there and get out and i don't agree with inciting them in any way, shape or form, but i also don't believe that we now should be and i'm not a truch supporter. i'm a cruz supporter,ut i don't believe we should be piling on trump to have the creeps like bill coming back again. what these people want to destroy our country. and they want to destroy the way of life we all have. and it's crazy.

that's a ridiculous hypothetical and they ought to stop it. .hey ought to do their jobs toy ought to stop refusing give merrick garland the same courtesy democrats have even republicans and confirm him soon. host: thank you for being this week's newsmaker. ms. aron: thank you so much. host: let me turn to our reporters. let's begin with the president making this announcement this past week of his pick to the supreme court. what happens next? mr. bravin: formally, he sent a document to senate and it's up to the senate to schedule a hearing. host: but he did say he would meet with them after the break. mr. bravin: if he can meet with the goal in criminals, you might be able to meet with merrick garland also. host: what do you think? from someard republicans who are for reelection who will say i will meet with him. do you think the pressure on groups likees from alliance on justice and others? ms. kim: i think it depends on what we see independent voters do in their home state. as a mobilizing issue for basis of both parties. you have liberals saying we have to give him a hearing. a rel

who ought to make the decision? president we're in the process of electing right now? what is the tradition? it's been 80 years -- 80 -- since a vacancy created in a presidential election year was filled. you have to go back to 1888. griever cleveland in the white house, to find the last time a vacancy created a presidential year was filled by a senate of a different party from the president. so we know what the tradition is, dana. it's the biden rule. when joe biden was chairman of the judiciary committee in '92, he said if a vacancy occurred, it would not be filled because of the pending election. harry reid said back in 2005 that even though the president nominates, that doesn't guarantee a vote. and chuck schumer who's going to be the democratic leader next year said 18 months before the end of president bush 43's term that if a vacancy occurred in the supreme court, they wouldn't fill it. so we know what their tradition is. this nomination ought to be made by the president we're in the process of electing this

. >> if they get out, then they ought to be held accountable and they ought to pay. they ought to be able to stand in front of these children, these victims and answer for what they did to them. >> the case is now in mediation. no dollar figure discussed at this point. the kidnappers come from wealthy peninsula families. the schoenfeld's father was a long time podiatrist and woods father owned that quarry where they buried the school kids and the bus driver. the kidnappers' attorney declined to be interviewed about the lawsuit and their only public comment was this sbrier 20 years ago. >> i'm very sorry, deeply sorry for what i've done. >> i was immature, i was a follower. i made an extremely stupid decision here. >> it's just a lot of pain and suffering that we put through everybody that we didn't realize that we were doing at the time. but now i hoped that everybody is just going on with their lives and everything can be back to somewhat normal. >> so far, ten of the kidnapping victims are plaintiffs in this lawsuit. more could join. i'll keep track of what happens

. >> if they get out, then they ought to be held accountable and they ought to pay. they ought to be able to stand in front of these children, these victims and answer for what they did to them. >> the case is now in mediation. no dollar figure discussed at this point. the kidnappers come from wealthy peninsula families. the schoenfeld's father was a long time podiatrist and woods father owned that quarry where they buried the school kids and the bus driver. the kidnappers' attorney declined to be interviewed about the lawsuit and their only public comment was this sbrier 20 years ago. >> i'm very sorry, deeply sorry for what i've done. >> i was immature, i was a follower. i made an extremely stupid decision here. >> it's just a lot of pain and suffering that we put through everybody that we didn't realize that we were doing at the time. but now i hoped that everybody is just going on with their lives and everything can be back to somewhat normal. >> so far, ten of the kidnapping victims are plaintiffs in this lawsuit. more could join. i'll keep track of what happens

we ought to know that. we ought to know that. what if the filipinos decide to be aggressive on pushing back without coordination of the united states? we have a defense pact with the philippines. shouldn't we know that? shouldn't we know that germany had relationships with iran prior to the iran deal? i argue we probably should know that. shouldn't we know what they're thinking after the iran deal? i argue i would like to know that. if i'm a policymaker whose finger is on that button, if i'm deciding how use the intelligence to avoid trouble, then we need to be as aggressive as we can in accord dance with the law. so we're in this hangover period is basically where i think we are today. we're still hung over. we're trying to figure it out. fbi beats up apple. apple beats up fbi. completely inappropriate in my mind. there is no path forward. all's that's happened now is they found a solution that doesn't mean they have to go to court. fair enough. all of those policy discussions are going to have to happen. and this is what worrie

we ought to be exporting american products.hat i want to do is get rid of these loopholes in our tax code that give american companies a reason to go overseas. the last thing we need is to have our own tax code giving american companies and incentive to go overseas. i think we ought to give tax breaks to companies that stay in america, don't you? >> after senator edwards' speech, he met with local residents. senator edwards: glad to see you here. >> [indiscernible] senator edwards: thank you. thank you very much. come your name. tell me youryou -- name. nice to meet you. >> i'm concerned about this energy. senator edwards: i'm worried about it, too. >> one thing i am concerned about the -- i know a lot of teachers and the things they are concerned about is the discipline in the students -- ck ofor edwards: la discipline in these students. eiger the same thing. do you teach? -- i hear the same thing. do you teach? >> how about making it easier to become a teacher? i have a degree from florida state university and i can't get a j

he ought to get a fair moderator. but donald sun willing to debate. >> i've been fair to you, senator. let's be fair here. >> i agree. but i'm pointing out i'm willing to show up anywhere. donald is terrified to show up anywhere. you know, tomorrow night we've got two town halls in cnn back to back in the same place. and yet, donald refuses to show up on stage with me because he cannot defend his policies. i think the people of wisconsin deserve to know what solutions each of us have for bringing jobs back to america, for raising wages, what solutions each of us have for defeating radical islamic terrorism and keeping this country safe and the reason donald doesn't want to talk about that is he doesn't have solutions. these are serious times and we need a president who is up to the task and knows how to turn things around. >> let me ask this question. i think there's a lot of people like me that are out here watching this process. mitt romney has suggested he wants a brokered convention or contested convention. john b

what we need to focus on is the principle, the principle, who ought to make the appointment? you have to go back 80 years to find the last time a vacancy created in an election year was filled, become to 1888 when cleveland was in the white house to find the last time when a vacancy was created in a presidential area a senate controlled by the party honest the party confirmed. the senate has a relative to play here. the president nominates, we decide to confirm. we thing the important principle in the middle of the presidential election that the american people need to weigh in and decide who is going to make this decision. not this lame duck president on the way out the door but the next president, next year. >> you are talking about principle and figure that happens in washington involves principle and politics and what we see with mark kirk is a senator, republican senator, up in a tough reelection battle and thing this is a hard line to hold. i have to ask you, is this a hard argument to make over the next 15 months if you are saying that the president cannot decide somet

ought to step in and solve the problem for him, tell him what it is that ought to be done and get him out of the back-and-forth between nebraska and kansas networks. he's now gone a year without the surgery, and he's going to now drive to another v.a. medical center in omaha, 300 miles one way, so that he can get the surgery that he's entitled to have that his hometown provider -- at a hometown provider, or a regional provider in his area. i don't know the age of this particular veteran, mr. gwynn, but many of the ages of our veterans who live in those communities, many are world war ii veterans, the opportunity for them to have family around them, the abet t ability to get -- the ability to get long distances is a complete challenge, and to have to go 300 miles when the law says he as a veteran, he who serve our country, is entitled to senio services at home. it ought to be something that can be sorted out. but every time he has attempted to do that the burden still rests with him. we want the department of veterans affairs to step in and say, we'll figure this out, we'll get it done

i think it ought to be an opt-in, you think it ought to be an opt-out. i guess. >> guest: i -- that's probably where we are. >> you both talks about a process before of privacy. would it make sense just to get nerve the room, the consumer advocates and the public interest groups and the isps and have a big discussion about this and maybe there could be an agreement on rules and that would obviate the need for the fcc to impose regulations? >> guest: i think, actually, that that probably would not work, but i'll -- >> guest: i would agree with you, it would not work. we proved that. >> guest: well, but i'll give you an example. john and i tried to work, and i devoted a lot of time and effort to a process where a set of short form notice guidelines should be developed so that consumers could make choices about whether to use a mobile app before downloading it. and what i found in the process was that a number of the privacy advocates, and we were working with them, really didn't want to tackle just that problem. and didn't want, i don't think were interest

now, that's how clear cut that ought to be. i think it would be such a fundamental violation -- >> by the way, do you want to negotiate that deal with the mood that's currently out there? >> not this week. not that week. >> i think easy to resolve peace issues in the middle east between the palestinians and israelis before you get to that peace proposal. >> look. these are both grown men. and i think they understand that there are historic forces at work here. they both represent a historic change in america. neither of them will end up supporting some unknown person in that kind of setting. it is not going to happen. >> yeah. i agree. all right. so at the end of the day, are you confident if you read social media, i know you actually do, which is pretty fascinating. you're one of the lifelong learners i know and you read all the time and you see the intensity. do you have any doubts that if cruz gets it trump people leave? trump gets it, cruz people leave? or do they unite? >> i think it depends on how they handle the period u

i have ideas of what we ought to do.ould rather hear from you, i want to know what you are worried about, what your concerns are, what you see happening area i came more to listen than to talk. i may have to prod you a little bit. this is your chance to talk to somebody who is out talking to everybody in america every day. i want to hear what you are concerned about. >> i have many concerns -- but a stringent one of this time -- >> that's a very good point. >> after telling us they are definitely out of money and then when you pick up the paper -- >> i voted against that raise, by the way. for the very reason you described right well that you described. people are really hurting. one of the things i know that there are a lot of folks being laid off, i will use this as an example to get the discussion started, i think we have a health care system in crisis. people can't pay for health care anymore and you have millions of americans with no health care coverage. it is breaking people. and then the washington bureaucrats sa

trade, currency ought to do the same thing. what happens when countries choose to manipulate currency, if they deliberately go into the financial market, and by of up dollars, then you get the artificial and balance. that is what economies around the world have been arguing relative to chinese behavior. what needs to be disciplined. no surprise, we have a little bit of a difference of opinion here. we do agree that currency is a real issue. the chamber does not agree that a trade agreement is the right vehicle to address it. nothave ministers of trade, finance people. this is the first time, to my knowledge, that they brought in the trade secretary and finance folks to come up with a currency commission. my colleague is right. it is not legally binding or enforceable. all 12 countries agreed that they would not manipulate currency for competitive advantage. under at covered resolution. 1.i should make is right now the u.s. treasury department cannot can determine and can call out the country for manipulating a currency. but, th

he isn't going to say anything publicly about in a hearing, he could answer questions and he ought to have the opportunity. and it is a question of fairness. most important is us following the constitution. how can you say we are being fair if we don't even give him a hearing? there is no fairness in that. i can't think since i've been here, a supreme court justice at the request of the white house, both of them republicans that everybody has had a hearing. >> did the judge say that he is prepared to wait until after if necessary? >> we want into that wanted into that because that should be a non- issue. the fact is if we fall it takes about 60 days and if you have a nominee let's take a year i don't think that's really and then we never do that after the election. but now that you're supposed to. the president wasn't elected for three years and nearly another party to tell us that he got elected and he's trying to do his job and he has done his job -- if it has some kind of a grandstanding thing every day that's one thing i would hope that the legal scholars would talk to those but b

i think it ought to be an opt-in, you think it ought to be an opt-out, i guess. jim: that's probably where we are. howard: you both talked about being a part of a process on privacy. would it make sense for everybody, just to get everybody in the room, the consumer advocates and the public interest groups and the i.s.p.'s, and have a big discussion about this and maybe there could be an agreement on rules and that would obviate the need for the f.c.c. to impose regulations? jim: i think actually that that probably would not work. but i'll -- john: i would agree with you it would not work. i think we've proved that. jim: i'll give you an example. john and i tried to work and i devoted a lot of time and a ort to a process where, a, set of short form notice guidelines can be developed so consumers could make a choice about whether to use a mobile app before downloading it. and what i found in the process was that a number of the privacy advocates, you were working with them, really didn't want to tackle just that problem. and didn't want dosh i don't think really we

where he gets the chances that a hearing and that's what you ought to have. he isn't going to say anything publicly that in the hearing he can answer questions and he ought to have that opportunity. it's a question of fairness and most were simply a following the constitution. but how can you say we are being fair if we don't give them a hearing? there is no fairness in that. i can't think of -- i've been here with a supreme court justice who doesn't have a hearing and said -- and there were a couple proposing names at the request of the white house both of them republicans. >> was he prepared to wait until after the election is necessary? >> we won't even go into that because it should be a non- issue. the fact is if it takes about 60 days you want to set a new precedent to say it takes a year, i don't think so and the senator said we would never do that after the election well, do it now like you're supposed to. the president wasn't elected for three years and nearly 5 million vote plurality. i realize there are so many others but he got elected and is doin

frankly what ought to happen is we ought to get them to pursue their god-given talents and connect them with the things that give them passion. and that's exactly what's we're doing in ohio. combined with mentoring programs to talk to kids about what their future can be. so let me be clear -- local control, obviously, high state standards. that's what it is in the state of ohio. >> senator cruz, you object to common core. governor kasich says local school boards developing local curriculum to meet higher standards. what's wrong with that? >> common core is a disaster. and if i am elected president in the first days as president, i will direct the department of education that common core ends that day. now let me tell you why you can do that. it's easy to talk about the problem, but you have to understand the solutions. the obama administration has abused executive power enforcing common core on the states. it has used raced to the top funds to effectively blackmail and force the states to adopt common core. the one silver lining of obama abusing executive power is that everything done w

and china ought to be part of that endeavor. perhaps we have, when we, you know, took that step a couple of years ago not being aware of what was lying in wait for us but at the time we took these decisions, the g-20 form, the g 28 form it was right to established that which brings together many of the important players of today who had not figured prominently or present in earlier forums and china is one of those players. the whole truth really is that as far as syria is concerned we're not anywhere close to where we could claim that marshal plans or similar endeavors could prove effective. we're still talking military conflict here, in iraq, in syria and right now also -- right now it dent make it very likely for us in the foreseeable future to be able to restore economic prosperity on the ground. in this region of the world. and that is how i see it. we're talking about something quite different and that's what's at stake here. i call it forms of stabilization. take iraq, example. public opinion didn't take notice of that but

this is one of those areas that ought to be bipartisan in particular because this is a bottleneck on access to opportunity. and if we're serious about giving people the tools to succeed in this country, giving them the levers to rise out of poverty, if they don't have access to the internet, it makes it that much more challenging for them. i wanted to turn that over to you and hear your thoughts on those questions. >> i appreciate the opportunity to speak to something that i agree with you, i believe ought to be bipartisan, as other issues have been before this committee. we're very proud of it. number one, this is a great example of a public-private partnership. all but $50,000 of this effort is being invested by the private sector, internet service providers, and nonprofits. connect home is an effort to connect up residents of public housing in 28 communities, 27 urban communities and one tribal community, the choctaw nation in oklahoma, to the internet, because the fast majority of them are not connected now. google fiber are great participants in this. the idea is we believe that

that's a ridiculous hypothetical and they ought to stop it. they ought to do their jobs. they ought to stop refusing to give merrick garland the same courtesy democrats have even republicans and confirm him soon. host: thank you for being this week's newsmaker. ms. aron: thank you so much. host: let me turn to our reporters. let's begin with the president making this announcement this past week of his pick to the supreme court. what happens next? mr. bravin: formally, he sent a document to the senate and it's up to the senate to schedule a hearing. host: but he did say he would meet with them after the break. mr. bravin: if he can meet with criminals, he might be able to meet with merrick garland also. host: what do you think? we have heard from some republicans who are for reelection who will say "i will meet with him." do you think the pressure on them increases from groups like alliance on justice and others? ms. kim: i think it depends on what we see independent voters do in their home state as a mobilizing issue for basis of both parties. you have liberals saying we

the president ought to have a line item veto. i anticipating your question, i want you to know i'll give it to a democratic president or a republican president. any president ought to have the ability to use a scalpel on a budget. i'm williamsed if we do -- i'm convinced if we do the right thing and we have the right type of congress and right president there are no limits to the ability this economy to grow out of this deficit. to achieve full employment without inflation and for the united states to be that symbol of peace and prosperity for all people and be an example to the rest of the world with how to develop their own social and economic political opportunities for people. with that i look forward to your questions. i appreciate very much, peter the opportunity to be with you today u.s.a. today. >> we're glad you're here. i got a question for you. just this morning the trade deficit was just announced for the most recent month and it was $17.6 billion or an increase of 25% over the previous months. of course the october c

every state ought to have ohio means jobs and frankly early on in our education, we ought to be educatingat you want do with your life connected to the jobs that are available so you can actually see what it is you might want to do and how you get one of those jobs. that's what i think is important, connecting education to jobs. we're forcing all of our universities to work with students on that and we also are starting that in the k through 12 system so that people can begin to grow up and see what it is they might want do and what it takes to get one, what they pay. it's all there on ohio means jobs. that's a site that should be available all across america so people can get education connected to jobs, training connected to jobs, but don't lose faith. we'll get this economy going, but also remember that you keep the faith and know that you will find your way in this world, just search for what it is you're supposed to do. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for your question. a quick break and more with governor john kasich right after this. this bale of hay almost derailed the ranch.

i think we ought to start by recognizing the story is well documented. after the launch went badly, some of the best minds, technology and a new contractor were brought in. they scrambled to overhaul the system and the exchange is soon up and running. the center for medicare and medicaid services is now following up on each of the inspector general's recommendations which the inspector general notes in its repo report. nearly 10 million americans used healthcare.gov to sign up for a plan or reenrole automatically. in my home state, close to 150,000 persons have used the site to sign up for a plan. that's up by more than 30% compared to last year. the committee will hear an update from the government accountability office. the government accountability office first brought this study before the committee in july of last year. i'm going to repeat what i said back then. on this side of the aisle we don't take a back seat to anybody in fighting fraud and protecting taxpayer dollars. one dollar ripped off is one dollar too many. let's recognize what was true

we ought to be exporting american products.hat i want to do is get rid of of these loopholes in our tax code that give american companies a reason to go overseas. the last thing we need is to have our own tax code giving american companies and incentive to go overseas. i think we ought to give tax breaks to companies that stay in america, don't you? >> after senator edwards' speech, he met with local residents. senator edwards: glad to see you here. >> [indiscernible] senator edwards: thank you. thank you very much. tell me your name. nice to meet you -- tell me your name. nice to meet you. >> i'm concerned about this energy bill. senator edwards: i'm worried about it, too. >> one thing i am concerned about the -- i know a lot of teachers and the things they are concerned about is the discipline in the students -- senator edwards: lack of discipline in these students. i hear the same thing. do you teach? -- i hear the same thing. do you teach? >> how about making it easier to become a teacher? i have a degree from florida state

every state ought to have ohio means jobs.early on in our education, we ought to be educating you based on what you want to do with your life, connected to the jobs that are available, so you can actually see what it is you might want to do and how you get one of those jobs. that's what i think is important. connecting education to jobs. and we're forcing all of our universities to work with students on that. and we all are starting that in the k through 12 system, so that people can begin to grow up and see what it is they might want to do and what it takes to get one, what they pay, it's all there on ohio means jobs. that's the kind of site that i would argue should be available all across america, so people can get education, connected to jobs, training connected to jobs, but don't lose faith. we'll get this economy going. but also remember, you know, you keep the faith and know that you will find your way in this world. just search for what it is you're supposed to do. okay? >> thank you very much. >> thank you for your qu

. >> you ought. >> gentlemen, you have got to do better than this. >> this guy has a numberm@#v @@ one. [crowd booing] >> number one absentee record in the united states senate. he will doesn't show up to

i think we ought to look at the rules, we ought to stick to the rules. i don't think we ought to do any fancy shenanigans to change the rules. but i don't see why these other candidates would get out if donald trump hasn't reached the number he needs to get to. >> they're putting their money, cruz and kasich, on the second ballot. it goes to the convention, the first ballot is taken. no one has enough to get a majority. then all hell breaks loose on the second ballot. delegates are freed up and then it's anybody's ball game. is that how it goes? >> pretty much. listen, it's basically an ov overtime and we decide big sporting events be overtime all the time. i think we ought to play it out. there's compelling cases to be made that a majority of voters have not -- and republican primaries have not supported donald trump. i think half of the delegates have been selected. i thought senator cruz made some excellent points. donald trump wants to icebox this thing now and avoid debates. but listen, over half the voters haven't voted. i think they should have a

with such a qualified man with the american people overwhelmingly of the view that there ought to be a hearing and a vote, if people vote no after that so be it, i think that it's been a very, very strong day for

the sort of thing we've seen this weekend ought to horrify every american. it's not a very hard thing to do to stand up and say the ku klux klan is the most violent and virulent domestic terrorist organization the united states has ever faced and racial bigotry has no part in the american conversation. and so the sort of race bating and dog whistles we've seen over the past several months ought to really chill us and concern us. it ought to show us how much more work we have -- >> what about the fact he said all of that and made that point, but at the end, you know, said, listen, but i will support whoever the nominee is? >> well, that's the speaker's decision to make. i can't speak to the political calculations. i can just speak to the moral calculus here. racial bigotry is a moral problem. it's a sin against god. and deserving of the judgment of god and we as the american people ought to be better than this and we ought to stand up to people who want to use racism and bigotry in order to pursue power of any kind. >> you support mr. trump, you want to respo

but they ought to get my permission to do it.concept. >> and your rules would change what? >> so what the rules would require, charlie, is that before a network could use the information they collect on me, that i have to say to them, you can't use that information. it's that simple. this is a simple question of putting the consumer in control of the information that they own. >> this is one of the arguments that tim cook uses in the encryption debate. look, these other people have information and access to it and they trade in this information, whereas we don't do that. we simply sell phones. >> well, i think that's another debate that's going on. what we're just trying to say is that in a world in which the people who take you to the internet know pefrg that you do on the internet, are you going to be able to control your own private everything? you know, charlie, we have for years had rules about what happens when you use the phone network. okay? your information, where you go on your phone network is protected by our rules at

that ought to be answered. i am going to go back to the familiar to answer is that, the so-called biden rules. .. with the biden rules, so i'm not going it take time to go over all of them again, but they boil down to a couple basic points. first, the president should exercise restraint and -- quote -- "not name a nominee until after the november election is completed" -- end of quote. or, stated differently, the president should let the people decide. but if the president chooses not to follow this model but inste instead, as chairman biden said -- quote -- "goes the way of -- quote -- "goes the way of and presses an election-year nomination, and, of course, then the senate shouldn't consider the nomination and shouldn't hold hearings. it doesn't matter, he said, and i quote, how could a person is nominated by the president, end of quote. so the historical record is pretty clear. but we haven't talked as much about one of the main reasons chairman biden was so adamant that the senate should consider a supreme

there seems to be some suggestion that if it's an election year, you ought to skip that process and let the next president make the appointment. and they say there's very little precedent for a president nominating someone in an election year. that might be technically correct but the fact of the matter is, there have been virtually no vacancies that have occurred during an election year, i think the last one was about 50 years, almost 50 years ago and in that case, an appointment was made and considered and that's the process that ought to take place in this case. the rarity of such an event should not preclude the senate from fulfilling its constitutional responsibility. there is every -- there is precedent for the senate -- for the president nominating and the senate at least considering the nomination during an election year. now, justice kennedy was confirmed in an election year, 1988, and that was a seven-month process. that began with the appointment of robert bjork to the supreme court, his nomination was considered and defeated. and then there was the appointment of douglas gin

no veteran out to be without health care, no veteran ought to be homeless, and no veteran ought to be unemployed in the united states of america. >> thank you, governor kasich. let's turn to another issue of real importance here in florida. just over a week from now president obama will visit cuba, the first time in 88 years a sitting u.s. president will set foot in cuba. two of you on this stage have parents that were born in cuba and moved to the united states. let's go back to my colleague dana bash. >> senator rubio, donald trump agrees with president obama in his decision to reengage diplomatically in cuba. the majority of americans seem to agree with that as well. so why are president obama, donald trump, and the majority of americans wrong? >> i would love a relationship between cuba and the united states to change. but it would require cuba to change, at least its government. today it has not. the fact of the matter is after these changes were made, there are now millions and hundreds of millions of dollars that will flow to the castro regime. it will now allow them to become

who ought to make this lifetime appointment? >> are you completely ruling out a lame duck scenario if hillary clinton wins? >> yes. we won't be confirming this person to the supreme court. >> even if hillary clinton nominates somebody more liberal than merrick garland? liberal than merrick garland. it's my hope she would on the part of the be making the appointment. >> are you comfortable with donald trump as your party's standard bearer? >> i'm going to support the nominee. i have a responsibility to supportny support my party's nominee. >> what did you mean when you said privately you could drop him like a hot rock? do you think it's appropriate for your senators to run against him if necessary? >> i think we've got a bunch of senate raises ces in purple states that are very competitive. each of those rates will be crafted very differently. every one of those races are going to be individual standalone contests with people who we think have a great chance of winning in november. >> and if that means running away from donald tr

. >> maybe ted ought to get out, maybe these people that are hot on that ought to tell him to do it. they try to tell me to get out of the race. how many times, chuck -- and now they should be thanking me for staying in, because if trump had won ohio, it would be over. i have a record of accomplishment, a record of bringing people together, a vision for the future of this country. and guess what? in the grassroots, people are getting it. now, they didn't get it because, frankly, you put me on the tube a lot, but trump got $1.8 billion worth of free media. i got like none. >> not all of it was positive. >> people are starting to hear me and we're start to go rise. look at what our numbers are. >> if you thought your candidacy were helping trump, not hurting him, would you get out? >> chuck, i'm running for president. this isn't a parlor game of who gets this or who gets that. >> but you're stuck with a parlor game. i understand that, but you're stuck having to play a parlor game because your only path is that's the ultimate parlor game. >> i am not playing a parlor game. the conventio

jefferson felt and said often that one ought to try to go through life avoiding pain. and adams, no, you can't do that. >> rose: adams was the ultimate realist about things. >> yes, he was. he once described someone as a mountain of the salt of the earth, and that could also, i think, be said of him. to me he's like a character in dickens -- he's grumpy, he's funny, he's full-form. he's not a silhouette. he's not a cardboard figure. if you were to cut him, real blood would come out. his love for his family and particularly his wife is quite wonderful. it's one to have the great love stories. >> rose: he loved his farm. he loved to build walls and move trees and all the -- but it's small farming. it's new england. very different. the difference between a new england free holder of the 18th century and a virginia planter was far greater than most people understand. it wasn't just one owned slaves and the other didn't. i should point out adams is the only founding father that never owned slaves on principle, as a matter of principle. he was a man of principle and he would

it ought to keep rising.t i don't want to do is give a raise to somebody and somebody else loses their jobs. a lot of these jobs are young people or part-time. the whole key to income and wage increases is skills. and we want to take anybody who is in a job where they are the working poor and give them the skills to be able to get out of it and i tell you another thing we're doing. and the legislature is going along with this. we do not want to have a working mom who gets offered a pay raise she can't take it because she loses more benefits than she gains with the pay raise. that is nuts on welfare. we're trying to reform this welfare system so people will be encouraged to rise. keep their day care. get more money and ultimately escape poverty. those are the kinds of things we're working on in our state. okay? [ applause ] >> let's turn back to the audience. this is simon gonzalez. he's an independent voter. >> as he mentioned my name is simon go simon gonzalez. i'm an international student i've been living i