i don't like they had something about a guy killing himself over a ouija board and he blamed the ouija. before they could blame violence on video games there were board games. you know why pearl harbor happened? battleship. >> that's a good point. there is always something that is recreational that is blamed jie. oh, twister. >> do you remember the twister masacres of 1975? >> i am just say wing have a lot of -- >> the cops don't know about that. >> it is because i rap them in the twister. joanne, when you have your slumber parties with your model friends do you play the ouija board between fill low -- the pillow fights and hot oil massages? >> we never did the massages, but that's a great addition. >> just in front of the camera. >> i definitely played with the ouija board when i was little. we did it, but i am a faithful person. i was never a believer until i saw it work. i don't know if that says -- seeing is believing, father. >> i believe in it, i do. >> i am not sure if it is spirits or if it is a collection of people. your energy is on something. i believe in collective energy a