ouor yr reporting, i should say. >> what's interesting, first of all, you have to understand that there are people around hillary clinton -- and i would say her husband, the former president is one -- the prize is the white house. i mean, imagine if she can ever get to the white house. so a way through the forest, you know, we don't know, but if there is a way, and even if she has to squeeze between two trees, they will tell it. >> will they jump at the vice-presidency if it were offered? >> it might make sense. you know the poll numbers. she brings in latinos, women, working-class voters and seniors, and that's -- those are four areas where obama himse is much weaker. >> i have to ask you this question about what we started with, which is that whole question of the war. if we continue to get this bad news that's been reported in your paper late this week about the war in the afghan front, the pakistan front, will that encourage a faster or slower withdrawal from afghanistan starting next july? >> well, the news is very bad. i have a scene last spring where the president is getting one