. -- outlyer, which i do not think you are. i'm hoping you can get together with the senior action network so that you can be included in in the discussion. gregg's we have been working in a lot of the neighborhoods. >> that is an integral part of it. >> thanks. >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is marilyn, and i'm a social manager case worker with meals on wheels. i'm here to represent one of our clients, "c" we will call her. mrs. c cannot be here herself. she is homebound and blind and she currently resides in public housing. mrs. c approached me with a problem that suddenly manifest in recent years that seems to be an ongoing fight for our seniors and disabled americans. she clearly needs in home support services to assist her with babying -- abating, grooming, the basic activities of daily living. however, because her income became $1,600 per month since the death of her husband, her new share is $1,050. this would only leave her $550 out of her income. her rent is $618 per month in public housing. this means that sh

we thought we were the outlyers. we don't love the story in the way you mean. it turns out to other stories of the civil war, we look crazily in love with our civil war even as we document its horrors, costs, limitations. to historians of african civil wars, the spanish civil war, the war in yugoslavia -- >> in ireland. >> in ireland they look at us -- who else not only commemorates but celebrates their civil war, and, in fact, reenacts it. >> who puts robert e. lee on >> no. >> well, since he died, yes. five united states postage stamps. there is no other loser in a civil war that ended up on five postage stamps. >> even one. >> even one. >> there are so many echoes of the civil war and political quarrels in our own time. you know, rick perry threatening cessation, all kinds of nullification threats. sometimes you feel like you're hearing old threats of the same debates. >> norman mailer wanted new york city to succeed. >> so did the mayor of new york. >> so did the norwegian immigrants in the upper peninsula of michigan, too. >> i think what i think, on the o

the only time a grand jury will not indict is in -- it's always an outlyer is when it's a police officer, or one of the reasons why they didn't take george zimmerman's case in front of a grand jury down in florida, you might have seen a grand jury reject that indictment. it's in those very rare instances where somebody -- you've got somebody who's got a kind of a favorable image in front of a grand jury. because remember the grand jury is usually composed of very pro-prosecution, pro-law enforcement, older, retired type people. that's who can afford to sit on them. >> marcia, for accuracy, there's a lot of details we don't have that no doubt the grand jury did have. but kenneth chamberlain's niece was outside the door asking to speak to her uncle, and calm him down, and the police did not let her. do you find that odd? >> yeah, that's the thing that struck me, anderson. and i wondered why not. here's a woman who can potentially defuse the situation for you, get him to at least open the door, show she's okay. i understand the police need to see that this man is not being held hostage, tha