this is a gross overgeneralization, but in my head, matt knows more than this -- there is a few wayset in history to lead goldman sachs. i think gus leavy literally died at his desk. [laughter] like likehear that find is a want to give. >> i do not plan to die at my desk. onnie: he wasn't running leaving -- but these things change, and ceos, as we heard earlier, say things that they don't necessarily have to stick to. max: i am glad you have that clipped to the for my thoughts. not open touple are lloyd blankfein, bob rubin, he left to join the clinton administration. hank paulson left to join the bush administration. i am not sure lloyd blankfein will join trump. vonnie: your cap to have everyone agree with you in the administration, but could it be possible he goes to the public service? public service is not inconsistent at all with who lloyd blankfein is. his spending a lot more time on all kinds of issues, whether it is health, science, climate, diversity, inclusion. they all have been part of his agenda. any one easily embrace of them, if not all of them. vonnie: he is still yo