. >> and you know this film -- some overindexed with african-americans, "the butler" overindexed.le regard movies as escapism, as a means of entertainment and escape. across the board for historical dramas, "lincoln" is not making as much as -- okay "lincoln" works. but that -- you know, "the hurt locker" is not making as much as -- >> fair enough -- >> -- as you know as -- >> "star wars." i got you. yeah. yeah. >> exactly. that's not just a black issue. that's what do you want to do on a friday. some people don't want to think. some people want to relax, and they deserve to do that. that applies to us. in terms of "the butler," the of "fruitvale station," of "selma," they over-index with african-americans. i think we have many thoughtful people who have gone to see the film. and supreme been surprised that they liked it. yeah, you hear that refrain, oh, i don't want to be sad. why do they always have to -- talked to somebody saying why do they always have to you know, show us the civil rights movement and martin luther king. i was like, brother, ain't been no movie ever. major mo

we overindex in sports and entertainment.ciety we still don't exist, for example, you also have reverend jackson pushing this silicone valley technology initiative to insure more people of color are in that space. perhaps again, tv can be a tipping point. we've got to open our eyes. we are far too alone not watching television but when we think about other spaces we're not occupying. >> can we quote viola davis. she's lovely when interviewing. >> thank you all. appreciate this conversation. >>> up next what's happening now. the murder trial of aaron hernandez. we're expecting the mother of the victim to take the stand in the massachusetts courtroom. we'll have that for you live. stay right here. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, we know in the cyber world, threats are always evolving. at first we were protecting networks. then, we were protecting the transfer of data. and today it's evolved to infrastructure... ♪ ♪ ...finance... and military missions. we're constantly innovating to advance the front line in the cyber ba