the problem is no one should be overmighty, not the government, or big unions and not big business andot big tech. we need a two-stage process. a pro-market breakup of these companies. facebook need to be forced to sell whatsapp and android and amazon. these platforms are too powerful. howie: i was going to ask you about the justice department meeting with state attorneys general whether the tech companies are intentionally stifling off the free flow of idea and stifling competition. you are saying the government needs to step in and break up these companies like they did with standard oil? >> conservatives should be believers in markets and competition. this is a pro market argument. it's not just forcing them to reverse the acquisitions they already made, like google and an droipped and amazon web services, and amazon make their own product and selling them on amazon. all that needs to be broken up. but even then these companies would be too dominant and too powerful. there is a further step. we need to have a pro market regulatory framework where if a company gets too big of a marke