let's go ahead and bring in our guests, in helsinki, owen mcnamara, visiting research fellow at the finnishte of international affairs. in brussels, teresa fallon, director of center for russia, europe asia studies. and a defense and military analyst, a warm welcome to all, thank you for joining us on inside story. let me start with you, teresa. will finland and sweden joining nato make europe safer? >> this has been a long time coming. russia's invasion of ukraine has been a hinge moment. sweden has been neutral for 200 years and this is a huge change for finland as well. i think this will fill the vacuum in the area and the baltics will feel safer, there was a conference in estonia and everyone was dancing for joy about this. there is a small issue with turkey but overall, sweden. looking forward, also arctic security will be tied up with with the baltics as well. this is for everybody and it shows how angry the public was with the brutality of what is going on any pain. daily news about russian soldiers brutalizing civilians, something just turned a switch in these countries that were tr

all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests in finland's capital, helsinki. owen mcnamara, visiting research fellow at the finish institute of international affairs in brussels. in belgium, theresa fallon, director of center for russia, europe, asia, studies, and in russia's capital. moscow, papa falcon, how are a defense and military analyst a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story, teresa, let me start with you today. i guess the big question right now is will finland and sweden joining nato make europe safer? well, this has been a long time coming. i think with the invasion brushes, you invasion of ukraine. it has been a hinge moment. let's remember sweden has been neutral for 200 years, and this is a huge change for finland as well. so yes, i think that this will fill a vacuum that's in that area and the baltic feel a whole lot safer. there was the leonard mary conference in is told me this weekend and everyone was pretty much dancing for joy about this event. yes, there's a small fly in your image now with turkey, but i think that overa