owen ullmann? guest: you point out there's still a lot of problems in the country that have to be solved. pitting one group against another in terms of who's right comes first is not an important one. there are two separate issues how we deal with immigration and the rights of people who feel that they should find a way to become citizens of the united states. in my mind a separate issue from the continuing problems that african-americans feel about discrimination. whether it's in the south or elsewhere. i don't think anything is gained by suggesting that one set of grievances is more important than other. depending on who you are you will put your self-interest first and i respect that. i think as a nation, we have to look at all of these problems and find solutions that basically reinforce our basic principles of freedom and equality. host: laura said this. i still tear up when i hear this speech. it's the word and power of his delivery. in this headline from the newspaper. we shall over come. gu

our guests are author michael eric dyson and "usa today" managing editor owen ullmann. "washington journal" is live every morning at 7 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> one of the things i looked at as i was exploring this was a lot of the county records many which these colleges, the counties where these colleges are. and when you look at the colonial county records, very often you'll have the name of the president or the name of the professor and then listed with their taxable property. >> all right. >> will be an enslaved person or two or three. >> did students bring their slaves? >> yes, students also -- >> students actually brought their slaves to school with themsome. >> yeah. and so if you think about this, what then happens,you look at the name of the president and then three lines over part of his taxable property is an enslaved person, what you'll often have is, for instance, in the case of princeton or harvard you'll actually have the president's name, ditto the college. well, who owns the person then? when -- in the sort of common knowledge of the town, of the loca