. >> let the expire like they are sun owessed to. neil: the rich are getting a lot of attention from politicians, billionaire wilbur roth, i guess safe to say, if you are a billionaire you are rich, but the definition has changed, taking from 250,000 to maybe 400,000, boehner today looking on a vote tomorrow that would put it over a million. bottom line, where do see this going. >> it seems that the argument is about how much redistribution the president theic track. because, whether it is one sealing or another is not moving the dial in terms of total tax revenues that are collected. so, i think these are not economic issues, these are political issues. neil: what worries me about it, i accept, as a consequence of this election, that the rich will have to pay more, i do not like it, i do not think it is necessary, is it is, what it is. what worries me is we're spending more time defining the kind of tax hikes we get than the spends cuts. >> that is the real issue, the problem not we're under taxing the population but the problem is

who can be off owessed to the right to work. about creating a freeloader problem that you described. explain once again what this really goes to the heart of. >> the heart of the matter is, to have a union, you have got to have benefits that go to everybody who is working at a particular plant in a particular company. the only way that a union can afford to maintain its bargaining position and its bargaining power is if everybody pays dues. everybody -- nobody can be a free rider. the minute you say nobody has to pay dues. nobody has to be a member of this union then you're giving everybody an easy out. if you give everybody an easy out that says i can collect on the benefits of this union i can collect all of the negotiated benefits but i don't have to be a member, then why would anybody want to be a member? you are creating what is -- what economists call a free rider problem and that is the essence of the attack on unionization in this country. it has been the essence of the attack on unionization since the taft hartley act i

. >> demanding owess. neil: that's a cheap shot. >> that's why he's losing neil.eil: exactly right. >> always going to win, and obama, to his credit, is more consistent on the issu neil: i will say this that barack obama has been more constent on that, you're right. i will say this, republicans lost the election, but i didn't realize they lost their backbone. that's neither here nor there. guys, thank you. the stan ten island resident who stepped in whe the government was not helping out. >> we basicallyaw a bunch of federal response which was out there with clipboards taking notes, but we didn't see boots on the ground actually helping people. neil: so he put boots on and got on the ground. he has now more reasons to be furious. al gore using sandy to go to war over climate change. here's an inconvennt truth for the president. now, al gore is taking on him as well. >> this sto was related to global warming. we cannot have four more years of mentioning is occasionally, and saying it's too bad that the ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the mercedes-benz wint