we needed debate between tenancy and owner occupation but any idea of how we get more owner occupationmaking it easier for people to borrow money, is just a mistake. manus: icon up with robert johnson who is the president of inet and i said you will get near to the finance minister from grace today and i and a is due for their bill to be paid how would you advise, when you have a quiet moment with varoufakis later on? guest: the crucial thing is he has to respect their position he has to respect their concern about the way that one person restructuring would create a precedent for others, but they also have to respect his point of view. there is a problem that if you look at the sheer scale of budget surplus which greece would have to run year after year in order to pay back the debt in full i don't think that is credible. it was always expected within the people involved with the base about financial regulation in the european economy that the private sector involvement would be followed at some stage by entering official sector involvement. some say we have already done it , we made