in london, the director of climate justice at oxfam u.s. warm welcome to you both and thank you so much for joining us today. let me start with you today. this is a landmark case, the largest ever climate case to be heard by the european court of human rights. from your vantage point, how significant is it? >> it is very significant, the first case before the european court of human rights on climate change and it is the first and so far only that targets 32 different countries that are members of the council of europe. so it raises a whole number of very interesting and broad questions and also because it is against so many countries, if the court rules for the plaintiff, it could have a pretty significant impact on the world as a whole. >> you mentioned that this raises some pretty interesting legal points going forward. what are some of those you consider to be the more interesting legal arguments being made in this case? >> sure, the most challenging one legally is that the people -- the children who brought -- they were children when t