. >> i thought we had learned our lesson with oxycontin. how can you say with any degree of confidence that zohydro won't be abused?you're going to have people die. >> this week, fault lines looks at the battle over the most popular drugs in america - opioid painkillers. >> there is big controversy tonight involving a new narcotic painkiller. >> the drug about to hit the market is called zohydro. but many are now asking is it even needed, and did the fda ignore warnings by approving it? >> at the heart of the debate, whether or not the drug may be too powerful, and potentially addictive. >> in october 2013, the food and drug administration did something unusual. it approved a new painkiller called zohydro, despite the fact that its own advisory committee had rejected the drug. >> i was quite surprised... you invite us in and then you tell us, "forget it." >> zohydro is a pure hydrocodone drug that comes in doses up to ten times higher than vicodin. the advisory committee feared that it could create a new generation of addicts. >> the entire

painkillers like oxycontin and vicodin affect the brain similarly to heroin. they can use euphoria which some intensify by taking stronger doses, snorting, or injecting them or combining them with alcohol which makes them more addictive and also much more dangerous because it increases the risk of respiratory depression which is the main cause of death from opioid overdoses. recent trends also indicate a significant rise in heroin abuse in our country which currently affects more than 500,000 americans and is driven in part, basically the predominantly the new cases, by individuals switching from prescription opioids to heroin because it is cheaper and easier to access. what are we doing about the problem? it relates to three things. safe management and better management of pain, prevention of overdose deaths, and the treatment of opioid addiction. how we treat pain better and how we protect those from becoming addicted and dieing from overdoses. we don't know enough about the risk of addiction among people that have chronic pain. so there's basic research on

>> one time i was at a party, and this man gave me an oxycontin.nd every day after that, my habit became like two a day. i'm like, 50, 60, $70 a pill. and then all of a sudden just couldn't find them anymore. and ever since that, it was just heroin, cocaine. meth. >> what were you like when were you on oxys? >> it's like a, you feel like super woman. it's hard to explain. >> can i ask what you are on right now? >> heroin and meth. once i wake up, i start getting high. >> and what happens if you don't? what happens to you? >> i'll get sick. i'll have cold sweats. muscles ache. you just, anxiety really bad. so i make sure i always have it. >> how are you supporting your habit? >> by selling pills, drugs. i mean, people call me for it. and i just know where to get it. >> sarah tells me she was diagnosed with a.d.d. as a child and still gets a monthly prescription for adderall. >> what kind of influence did the mormon church have on your life when you were younger? >> my dad is catholic and my mom is mormon. my mom has never drunk, smoke, done drugs. s

purdue markets oxycontin, one of the most abused prescription opiates. the database allegedly contained information about doctors who engaged in reckless prescribing practices. during my investigation revealed many state medical boards as well as the center for medicare and medicaid services didn't know about this database. we encourage these organizations as well as dea to contact purdue about it. as a result, the information is now in the hands of authorities who could take action against irresponsible doctors. the purpose of this hearing is to learn more about what else is being done to combat this epidemic and what role congress can make. a multifacetted approach makes common sense. prevention effort through which doctors and the public are educated about the dangerousness of opioids and other addictive drugs should be a part of that solution. this is why the mixed signals, the obama administration sends to young people about marijuana use are also damaging. young people and all those looking to climb up the ladder of opportunity in america don't nee

purdue markets oxycontin, one of the most abused prescription opiates. the database allegedly contained information about doctors who engaged in reckless prescribing practices. during my investigation revealed many state medical boards as well as the center for medicare and medicaid services didn't know about this database. we encourage these organizations as well as dea to contact purdue about it. as a result, the information is now in the hands of authorities who could take action against irresponsible doctors. the purpose of this hearing is to learn more about what else is being done to combat this epidemic and what role congress can make. a multifacetted approach makes common sense. prevention effort through which doctors and the public are educated about the dangerousness of opioids and other addictive drugs should be a part of that solution. this is why the mixed signals, the obama administration sends to young people about marijuana use are also damaging. young people and all those looking to climb up the ladder of opportunity in america don't nee

. >> you know, i'll never forget that first oxycontin i took.was like a miracle cure. >> and we're here to find out why. ♪ >>> utah is one of the safest states in the nation. it's scenic and affluent. and yet people are dying at alarming rates from prescription pill abuse. >> this isn't exactly the kind of area where you'd expect a lot of drug activity to be taking place. but we're told that it's everywhere. it's just really hard to get people to talk openly about it on camera. you about a woman here and her daughter have agreed to tell us about the secrets that her family have been keeping for years. >> there are things that we're taught in the mormon church not to do. drinking and smoking. you know, there are some ideals that we strive for. get married. you know, multiply and replenish the earth. there's that pressure to be perfect. and since we don't drink, there's always the pills, which aren't really talked about. >> kathy wants to talk about the pills. she's been wrestling with sobriety after long-term abuse of painkillers. a leader in her

if people have pain and need something more powerful than oxycontin is a good alternative. >> there have been a lot of questions raised about the florida state football team, which says that people get away with crime. you are a proud fsu alumni. to think this is a serious problem or is this just the media taking cheap shots? >> as soon as you have an allegation like this, you have to approach things in a fair way. this is not just an issue at florida state university but across our country. we have seen a lot of focus on it which is a good thing. we have seen stories about the nfl. this is a national problem that we need to address seriously. weed law enforcement act seriously and state attorneys for whatever might bring those charges that have thorough investigations and move forward appropriately. >> does fsu have a serious problem? >> i think every student needs to be held to high standards. if there are allegations that he to be reviewed. there should not be different standards for everybody. everyone involved whether schools or the state attorney needs to be held accountable to the

if people have pain and need something more powerful than oxycontin is a good alternative. >> there have been a lot of questions raised about the florida state football team, get away s that people a proud fsu you are alumni. to think this is a or is this just the media taking cheap shots? have an on as you allegation like this, you

he got away on foot unknown number of oxycontin pills.uspect about 5 feet tall, wearing dark colored hoodie. >> the search is also on this morning, it continues for two home invasion robberies suspects who terrorized some local college student late last night. >> "eyewitness news" reporter jan carabeo live near temple university with the very latest, jan? >> food moving, student body shaken up, police say group of temple students is tied up, and robbed at gunpoint, overnight, during a home invasion. if you take a look at the video, you can see where this happened, right around 8:30, sunday night, this is all off campus, housing here, police responded to the 1900 block of north 18th street, north philadelphia, they say, two men with guns, entered this house, and tied up six temple university students who live here. >> asked tuned own to be vigilant, stay away from the area. meanwhile investigators are asking anyone with information to call police, unfortunately, no detailed description of the suspects, only, that they're two men in their 2

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it's a novel concept that promises to curb drug abuse nationwide, especially with opioids like oxycontin tried to crush these pills, but they're virtually indestructible. dan cohen of the abuse deterrent coalition says the deterrent formulation in these methods can stop drug abusers in their tracks. >> i thought one of the ways to reduce the abuse was time release drugs. where did that fit into the solution? >> the extended release drugs are very important products for patients that are in pain and they came on the market about 15 years ago. one of the problems with extended release drugs is that abusers found that by crushing them, snorting and injecting they could get a release of the entire load of the product in one fell swoop. that would cause the high. that made them very interested in those drugs. >> reporter: this is how it works. there are two active parts of the abuse deterrent formulation in these pills. one is the hardening of the pill that makes it nearly impossible to crush it fine enough to be snorted. the other is a gelling agent that makes it impossible to go through mos

but deaths attributed to what are known as opioid prescription painkillers like vicodin and oxycontin declined during the same period. officials believe the availability of heroin and tighter regulations on painkillers are behind the shifting numbers. that said, the number of people dying of these painkiller overdoses is still much higher. in 2012, 3,700 people died of heroin overdoses, 9,900 people died from abusing opioids. voter registration in ferguson, missouri, has surged in the aftermath of the killing of an unarmed black teenager by a white police officer. it's up nearly 30%, according to a board of elections official. after days of sometimes violent protests, civil rights leaders had urged residents of the st. louis suburb to participate more in the electoral process. two-thirds of ferguson's 21,000 residents are black, but the police and city council are overwhelmingly white. city council elections in ferguson are next spring. in the first of its kind ceremony ever held in the united states, a nun from new jersey has been beatified. sister miriam teresa, whose writings were

come on, i got friends of mine that they got on oxycontin. these people are zombies. .. but if they go out and smoke a joint or get medical marijuana, which a bunch of them have gone to colorado and got it, they come become and stop taking their drugs. the doctors are amazed. my doctor was amazed. these prescription pills are killing people. and there's a certain part of this society that is saying no, no, no, but the doctors -- come on, even the one doctor on cnn was against it forever and now he's the one standing there going wait a minute, this can help people if you do

. >> maybe use oxycontin. >> somebody has never huffed glue. don't knock quitting until you have tried starting it. that does president make sense. -- that doesn't make sense. i a feeling you will use this. joanne gnaw -- >> joanne gnaw? >> your name is joanne. i should be shocked for that. every time i call you joanna i should be shocked. >> i am all for it. >> would you use this to remind you to drink and not to drink? >> i don't need a reminder to drink. i have a cheaper option though. a rubberband. i used to use it when i was little. my dad told me to. in class i would not raise my hand. i would call out. my dad every time you want to call out you pull on it so you get the sting of the rubberband. i just put it in my hair so i never got hurt. it was a good idea. it is the same thing. >> then the onus is on you. analyze your own behavior. >> you know what you are interruptiing and maybe you should have done that and you wouldn't be on this show. >> i just don't talk anymore. >> would this work for your bad behaviors? i know you have many. >>

. >> you mentioned ox oxycontin ad other drugs. quite an unsavory history for this class of drugs. why do you believe fda approved zohydro, despite objection he and asking them to reconsider? >> the surge in heroin use is something a lot of people are talking about. it's estimated four out of five heroin users in the united states actually started by using painkiller opioid drugs. these are all derived from opium. it is a quick transition. we've spoken in our film with these addicts who have transitioned from taking these pills to shooting heroin. he started on these drugs when he was just a teenager by taking these pills. so it does seem to be something that is creating or factoring into the surge of heroin use. when you bring that back to the fda and you ask, well then why would you see putting another drug onto the market as the right step to take, i think the argument is that there is a perception that the people who abuse these drugs are people who are predisposed to taking narcotics. that is a big misconception. people who are prone to this epidemic are from all walks of life

attorneys say that she tested positive for oxycontin, thc, which is of course part of marijuana, andalcohol, and could have died. now, listen to this, one of the dads, one of the boy's dads actually was also arrested. prosecutors say he swapped phones out with his son to try to throw the police offer. >> apple doesn't fall far from the tree. >> here is how to protect yourself. contract your credit or debit card company to let them know you may in fact and victim. call one of the three credit reporting agencies, activate 09 day fraud alertment you can also purchase a third party security monitoring plan, but they may not catch all suspicious activity. and in the future, ask for your purchase to be transacted as credit even when using your debit card. >> if they do get your credit cards, opening up to all of your financial life, your home webbing i i loan, your savings account. so use your credit cards. credits carts are not immune from being hack, but do you have more protection. >> the added layer, middle person. also can charge for replacement card, but ask to drop the fee or ask th

. >> opiates, oxycontin? a lot of stuff out there on the street right now?>> if i leave tomorrow, i'm scared. >> you leave tomorrow? >> yeah. >> what are you going to do different this time? >> go to my meetings. trying to do the best i can to stay away from old people, places and things. >> easier said than done. >> yes, sir. >> talk is cheap. >> yes, sir. >> knowing that drug use, jail officials have dedicated special housing units to inmates who want to make a change. >> we talk about women have very difficult in recovery because of guilt, shame and remorse they experience. because you made a mistake doesn't mean that you are a mistake. >> the program is called enough is enough and it's run by the jail's substance abuse program coordinator kentucky wright. >> you have a disease and you are not responsible for having it but you are responsible for recovery. >> the focus on basic recovery to help them get back into main stream society. one of the things that happens traditionally in corrections to address rearrest, the same old kind of soup every day, get l

eating a big mac was like taking black tar heroin, or, you would be better off eating a handful of oxycontind 5,000 adults to those who drank soda and found that people who drank the soda every day experienced a pr premature aging at the same day as others. i talked to dr. sanjay gupta about the soda, he explained it is the sugar that is the problem, and the way it is delivered compared to other things that have sugar. >> 100% fruit juice has sugar, part of the reason, when you drink fruit juice you get other stuff in there that can slow down the absorbion. candy bar is the same thing, when you drink a sugary soda, basically it is going separate into the system and liver and so forth. >> soda shortens your telamiers, sanjay with explain it better. >> the chromosome would be the middle part, and it is these things on the end that are your telamiers. as we go through life they shorten, and when they shorten at a certain amount, the cells can't replicate. and the human being will get to the end of their life. the sodas shorten these more quickly. >> i'll just point out after a conversation abou

he told police there were oxycontin pills missing from his home and he believed the child was using themother young boy who was also at the home told investigators he waited to call 911 after finding the young boy unconscious. he's charged with child endangerment. >>> animal control officers have opened an investigation after finding an extremely malnourished dog in the backyard of a home in delaware county. the pitbull/terrier blend was found outside a home in chester. the dog with the name pearl was seized by spca humane investigators, now in their care. at just over 20 pounds, her ribs were protruding. the person who lived in the home where the dog was found is now under investigation. >>> and attention car owners. there's another auto recall. >> plus, how your own voice may be the next layer of protection against identity theft and here's what's coming up tonight on nbc 10 news at 5:00. >>> 20 unsolved murders this year, only one arrest. next at 5:00, we're taking a closer look at a new delaware homicide unit tasked with solving these crimes and putting violent criminals behind bars.

gunman got away with oxycontin pills rite aid bethlehem pike in ambler early today. the man was arm and fired a shot inside that store, but, thankfully no one was injured. police say the suspect was 5 feet tall, wearing a hoodie when he got away. >> local college students tied up and robbed at gunpoint in that terrifying home invasion. >> january, good morning. >> good morning, definately frightening night for some student here, north philadelphia, and investigators say, a group of temple university students were tied up, threatened at gunpoint, and robbed in their own home during home invasion, if you take a look at the video, you can see where this happened. 8:30 last night, off campus housing, happened at the 1900 block. >> two men enter, tied up six people inside one of the student also pistol whipped. university sent out alert to terrible student about the inches den and asked student don't avoid the area, school officials are also asking anyone with information to call police. unfortunately no detailed description of the suspect, only that they're two men in th

christ of latter day saints and lisa speaks with an addict who discusses what it's like to be on oxycontinke you feel like superwoman. i don't know. it's hard to explain. >> can i ask what you're on right now? >> heroin and meth. it's just once i wake up, i start getting high. >> and what happens if you don't? what happens to you? >> i'll get sick. ott and cold sweats. muscles ache. anxiety really bad. so i make sure i always have it. >> how are you supporting your habit? >> by selling pills, drugs. i mean, people call me for it and i just know where to get it. >> sara tells me she was diagnosed with a.d.d. as a child and gets a monthly prescription forred a for it but gets more illegal drugs by selling hers. you can make 900 bucks on that? what influence did the mormon church have on your life when you were younger? >> my mom has never drank, smoked, done drugs. you know, she just doesn't relate to me at all. we don't relate with each other. >> why do you think addiction is so rampant among mormons here? >> they're depressed or hiding some type of issue in their life. they just don't want

it's a novel concept that promises to curb drug abuse nationwide especially with opioids like oxycontin. we tried to crush these pills, but they're virtually indestructible. dan cohen of the abuse deterrent coalition says the deterrent formulation in these methods can stop drug abusers in their tracks. >> we've been looking the abuse deterrents for years and i thought one of the ways to reduce the abuse was time release drugs. where did that fit into the solution? >> the extended release drugs are a very important product for patients in pain. they came on the market about 15 years ago. one of the problems with extended release drugs is that abusers found that by crushing them, snorting, injecting they could get a release of the entire load of the product in one fell swoop and that would cause the high. that made them very interested in those drugs. >> reporter: this is how it works. there are two active parts of the abuse deterrent formulation in these pills. one is the hardening of the pill that makes it nearly impossible to crush it fine enough to be snorted. the other is a gelling a

attorneys say she tested positive for oxycontin. thc and alcohol and could have died.e boys father was also arrested. prosecutors say he swapped phones out with his son to throw off investigators. >> police say a female passenger in a big rig was naked when that truck slammed into a schoolbus. >> the accident happened in florida. seven students were taken to the hospital after the crash. at least one of the element will he school students was seriously injured. two people in the semi were badly hurt. police say they received several calls that the simi was driving erratically before the crash. the bus was stopping to let students off. police say the truck driver did not see the bus stopping. there's still no word on why that truck passenger was not wearing any clothes. >> a case in colorado supreme court could have major implications for marijuana smokers. brandon coats a quadriplegic with a prescription for medical marijuana. he was fired from his job because he failed a drug test. coats maintains he has never been high at work and use the drug to control violent musc

then got away with unknown number of oxycontin pills. it happened about 5:00 o'clock this morning, no one was injured, and investigators say the suspect is about 5 feet tall and wearing a hoodie, southbound, bethlehem pike. >> local college students are targeted in a home invasion robbery. >> police looking for two suspects armed with handguns. >> jan carabeo live near temple university with more on the search for the gunmen, january? >> good morning, just able to speak with temple university students as they head to their 8:00 classes cents. they new exactly the story we were doing, they all got temple university alerts about the robbery last night. they say they're scared, about what happened, and are going to be more aware of their surroundings from here on out. in the meantime, police looking for two suspect they say tied up group of temple university students, and robbed them at gunpoint. it all happened at off campus housing, in 1900 block of north 18th street, the video you're looking at right now, all apartment 8:30 sunday night,

the victim was found behind a school, attorneys say she tested positive for oxycontin, thc and alcoholnd could have died. one of the boys' fathers was also arrested. prosecutors say he swapped phones out with his son to throw off investigators. >>> all right, let's throw our tension to this designer, posting a picture of emaciated model on instagram. many people sounded off over this note e take a look. it shows super skinny model wearing the designer's clothing, mccartney posted the pick with a caption, worn well. people are outraged at the ultrathin appearance, calling it appauling, discusting, some started campaign to un follow stella on the social media site. controversy comes on the heals of comments mccartney made at a paris fashion show event, in which she suggested strong women are un attractive. >> really good friends with gwyneth paltrow. >> yes. >> good news for twilight fans, the studio behind the hit franchise, teaming up with facebook to create five short face on film. lions gate holding contest to 55 female director to work on the contract, kristin stew is the one of the

then got away with an unknown number of oxycontin pills this happened around 5:00 this morning in the 1200 block of bethlehem pike. in one was injured, investigators say this suspect business 5 feet tall and he ran away south, on bethlehem pike. >>> well, work is underway on a new headquarters for the philadelphia police department. "eyewitness news" at forty-sixth and market in west philadelphia. where the the ceremonial ground breaking was held. the the old provident mutual life insurance life building will be renovated and will house the police department as well as medical examiner's office, the morgue and the department of health. that new headquarters will allow the the department to vacant current headquarters at eighth and race. >>> well, it is cold and flu season, and we know parents at some point will likely to have give their kids some kind of medicine. >> but surprising number of parents aren't doing it correctly that is one story still ahead. >>> plus a crazy rescue after a woman gets stuck in the chimney we will tell you how she got there and why she ended up in jail aft

but if people like her were get into pain or multiple sclerosis better than oxycontin, it is a good alternative. >> thank you, governor. >> there are questions raised about the florida state university football team, specifically that some fsu football players have gotten away with crimes from car theft to alleged rape as they are a protected class. you are a proud fsu alumnis, do you think this is a serious probable or as some boosters would have it, just the media taking cheap shots? >> well i think it is a serious problem. whenever you have an allegation of the types that we have seen, you have to take it seriously. i used to be the attorney general and i understand what justice many means. you have to approach it in a fairway. you have to make sure there is balance just like on the scales of justice. but this isn't just an issue at florida state university, it is an issue across our country. and we've seen a lot of focus on it and i think that is a good thing. we've seen the stories out of the nfl. this is a problem that america has and we have to address it in a serious way and have law en

he tells police in northumberland county that the nine year old mixed oxycontin, marijuana and alcoholauthorities say hair tried to perform cpr on the child for 40 minutes before calling 911. grief counselors are now on hand at the victim's elementary school to help classmates cope with the loss. >> apple and facebook have announced brands new benefits packages and it's targeted directly at getting more women into their ranks. maribel aber is live at the nasdaq in times square. these are some interesting benefits, maribel. >> reporter: interesting great way to say that, tam. facebook and apple actually paying their employees their female employees to freeze their eggs. facebook is already covering the procedure as part of its insurance benefits. apple plans to offer coverage starting in january. and freezing eggs is really a theme as a way for women to put fertility on hold. mixed day for the u.s. stock market as the dow gained back big gains and finished lower. futures pointing to a lower open and macy's is kicking off black friday on thanksgiving. the retailer will open doors at 6:00

people like her will work to get into multiple sclerosis and they need something more powerful than oxycontina good alternative. >> moderator: governor there has been a lot of questions about the florida state football team specifically football players have gotten with crimes ranging from cart that's almost as if they are protected. you are proud of the two alumnus. you think this is a serious problem at fsu or as some boosters would have it is the media taking cheap shots? scott: i think it's a serious problem. whenever you have an allocation of the types that we have seen you've got to take it seriously. i used to be the attorney general and i understand what justice means. you've got to approach in the fairway. they have got to make sure there is balance just like on the scales of justice. but this isn't just an issue at florida state university. it's an issue across our country. we have seen a lot of focus on it and i think that's a good thing. we have seen the stories out of the nfl. this is a problem america has and we have to address is in a serious way. we have to have law enforcemen

profession, for patient care -- cancer patients that need help, we have alternatives that work better -- oxycontin, oxycodone, you name it. we have several options it at do a much better job for chronic pain. i've had hundreds of patients with cancer that needed it. >> i'm absolutely for a state's right to legalize marijuana should they see fit. at that level, it becomes a state issue. washington and colorado are updating outdated laws and it's being update -- hampered at a federal level to remove marijuana to schedule one narcotics. it is less harmful to society than a call or tobacco and are recommend its use to anybody. >> absolutely not. defined as a gateway drug and it will lead to worse drugs 14 agers and some adults. we need to hold firm on this. i will not support recreational nor medicinal youse. posit for aing to short break. when we come back, we will ask the candidates about border security, and higher secure --uld -- fire border secure higher border security. >> your voice, your vote. you have been watching campaign 2014 oyster boat. >> welcome back to void your -- voice your vote. ag

patients that need help, we have other alternatives that work -- other alternatives that work better, oxycontin, oxycodone, you name it. i've had hundreds of patients unfortunately with cancer that i have treated. they do well with these drugs. same question to you regarding marijuana legalization. i am absolutely for a states right to legalize marijuana should they see fit. on that level, it becomes a federal issue because in states like colorado and washington, their experiments in updating are being hampered by a failure on the federal level to remove marijuana from schedule one narcotics. tois far less harmful society than alcohol and tobacco, and i recommend its use and enjoyment by anybody. >> finally, republican harris brown. >> absolutely not. marijuana has been defined as a gateway drug, and it will lead to harder and worse drugs for our teenagers and some adults. we need to hold firm on this, and i do not support recreational nor medicinal use. absolutely not. >> thank you. we will pause for a few moments for a short break. when we come back, we will ask candidates about border securi

i know many people who have become hooked on heroin through oxycontin that has been described. we need to rein back our prescription practices and begin to look at hypnosis, meditation, marijuana, different methods of dealing with pain for starters. thank you. >> thank you. how do you feel? >> the candidate for attorney general for the liberty union party posted two days ago that the governor was given money to buy a new snowblower and that could have been used to build a new drug facility. peter, did you do that? >> is it my turn or yours? >> i am done. >> how do you feel about the aate possible? -- state's proach? we have drug dealers coming into the state and they are doing drugs to young kids. if you were in them at 13 years old, that will never be a productive citizen. yet take a drug dealer, and when you get him, you come down hard. you let it be known that if you come to vermont and you get caught, you do the time. we need judges and district attorneys. make it that they are so scared that the that will end part of your problem right there. >> i tend to go along with wha

i know many, many people who have become hooked on heroin through oxycontin that's been prescribed. so we really need to rein back our prescription practices and begin to look at hypnosis, on meditation, on marijuana, all these different methods of dealing with pain for starters. thank you. >> moderator: thank you. ms. ericson. how do you feel about -- had to make candidate for attorney general for the liberty union party two days ago, she posted online that peter shumlin had given $5 million to a ski resort to buy a new snowblower, that could've been used for drug treatment facility. peter? did you do that? [laughter] shumlin: is am i turn on your turn? >> moderator: are you done? mr. peters, how do you feel about the states approach? peters: you have a lot of young kids and nowadays if you do something like if you don't buckle them up or do something when you can be held liable for child safety and well being. you've got these drug dealers coming into this state and they're getting trucks to very young kids. and if you and them a 13 they will never be a productive citizen. if they

people like her will work to get into multiple sclerosis and they need something more powerful than oxycontina good alternative. >> moderator: governor there has been a lot of questions about the florida state football team specifically football players have gotten with crimes ranging from cart that's almost as if they are protected. you are proud of the two alumnus. you think this is a serious problem at fsu or as some boosters would have it is the media taking cheap shots? scott: i think it's a serious problem. whenever you have an allocation of the types that we have seen you've got to take it seriously. i used to be the attorney general and i understand what justice means. you've got to approach in the fairway. they have got to make sure there is balance just like on the scales of justice. but this isn't just an issue at florida state university. it's an issue across our country. we have seen a lot of focus on it and i think that's a good thing. we have seen the stories out of the nfl. this is a problem america has and we have to address is in a serious way. we have to have law enforcemen

come on, i got friends of mine that they got on oxycontin. these people are zombies. .. but if they go out and smoke a joint or get medical marijuana, which a bunch of them have gone to colorado and got it, they come become and stop taking their drugs. the doctors are amazed. my doctor was amazed. these prescription pills are killing people. and there's a certain part of this society that is saying no, no, no, but the doctors -- come on, even the one doctor on cnn was against it forever and now he's the one standing there going wait a minute, this can help people if you do it the right way. host: richard talks about medical marijuana. you may have other issues. keep calling with those as we take a few minutes to talk about secret service. it was at the white house where the white house press spokesperson josh earnest talked about the issue of the resignation and also talked about when the white house learned about that armed security guard, the armed security contractor who rode in an elevator with president obama. >> i can tell you that the white house first learned of