that was oz katerji talking about his experiences in kyiv. now we're going to turn with elections going on across the world, to the uk elections, because ros and i were both involved on election night. and ros, well, he was involved in one of the big stories of the night because he was in the constituency of the former prime minister, liz truss, and he told us all about it. i was in norfolk, in kings lynn, to be precise, in a leisure centre where the counts for north west norfolk and south west norfolk were going on, and i was struck that i could stand very close to where the votes were being counted. actually, we were on a series of badminton courts and they said the journalists can't go across this line, which i think was part of a badminton or a basketball court, but we were a couple of metres back from the counting agents who, on behalf of the parties, stand right next to the tables and jot down the counts, the votes, as they're being counted because sometimes people will ask us both during the night and afterwards, "well, when you're goi

the journalist oz katerji was nearby, and when he heard about what had happened, he went there and initiallyos his story. so i'd heard, i could hear the strikes from my apartment, but i had an appointment that i had to keep, so i didn't go immediately there. it's only when i realised what had been hit that i cancelled what i was doing, and i went immediately down to okhmatdyt children's hospital. that's because i'd known the hospital, because i'd reported from there before at the beginning of the war. i was there withjohn sweeney, former bbc, one of your former colleagues. and that was for gmb. and we interviewed the head of the hospital. so it was, you know, it was immediately, i knew