it took someone like donald trump from the outside, the ozment disruptor, to be able to do this. -- the old but disruptor, to be able to do this. >> this is where politics come in. if you have most of america truly believing that free markets were, that there is a real propensity to build your life from nothing to something, that, yes, you made major missteps in your life at some point but were able to, and i will use joe biden's phrase, build back better. if that is actually demonstrated in our country -- then why the hell would people vote for democrats? the proof is in the pudding. we are the later opportunity. as conservatives -- we are the land of opportunity. as conservatives this is a place where we can say that opportunity exist even when you're the worst part of your life. >> i would like to say it is really important what the american conservative union are doing here. they're making this an important subject. turning point usa, charlie kurt does. candace owens. a lot of conservatives are talking about criminal justice reform and putting on stage, on camera, in front of people