industrial, p.d.r., these are all changing, they're all moving. a policy document allows for a logical plan to be involved and allows for the specificity to come into being. and if we get beyond that, we're never going to have a document that works. commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: just a follow-up mostly for mr. edelman, but you were all very happy with the successes of hope six and looking forward to the successes of hope s.f. i guess we kind of like to have a look at the whole public housing issue regionally, and i don't expect an answer today. but as part of the whole presentation, i mean, we have to look at this thing and see which direction it's going. i'm sure that because i think a lot of progress is being made and hopefully we can continue to move in that direction and making sure that needs throughout the bay area are also being met by other municipalities and other counties to deal with housing problems in their areas regarding public housing and section 8, which they talked about a little bit in the presentation that we ha