p.f.g. john rowe has been fighting for customers of m.f. global fighting for them to get their money back he's co-founder of the commodity customer coalition and he's here now to help us understand how this affects investor confidence and the broader picture so first thank you so much for being on the show today we really appreciate having you on on a day like today where you are and yeah absolutely so first you said i saw you quoted in an article you're having deja vu why are you having deja vu john row over this nine months after a global. group of dollars. being to be charitable this is appropriate why the commodities burren us. such a short time we've got the first instance on since the early. in the way there was a little so it seems like we're still pretty much the same a similar process and. speaking of that process you have been going through it with m.f. global you've been looking at all of the fine print of how that was able to happen i want to know the c.r.t.c. in january said it found no material breaches of customer fund protec