p.j. clarke's has been around since the 1800's, well over a hundred years old establishment. i think it was an irish immigrant who came here, decided this was a great restaurant, bought it, and then expanded it. so, when you look at your own businesses, do you look and say i want to make sure this stays around for over 100 years? >> no. babbo turns 15 this year. i know mesa turned 22. i think we have already outlived our original plans. we planned on getting in but we did not have an out, nor did we have a finish or dream of a finish. 100 years -- >> seems too far? >> no, i love the idea. but that would be four or five generations of chefs and families. if it was something we could do, i would be very excited. >> are you preparing your business for that possibility? >> my mistake was building 21 one-off restaurants. >> wait, you made a mistake? [laughter] >> i made a whole mess of them, believe me. >> we're going to here about the first one ever. >> no, no, no. our mistake was, instead of creating something we could sell as a group, like people in this room are doing, we buil