they are such colorful stories about pablo escobar and his incredible temper and stuff.i wanted to know what hockey was like as a person so i said i want you to come back with color. i want you to tell me what he is like. i went back in about two weeks if someone sent me an e-mail visit his favorite food is chicken. [laughter] >> which is really what i was looking for. so sometimes it worked to our advantage and other times it was really a struggle to get the kind of information i wanted, and i was really sorry that i couldn't do more field research in some of these areas. but it had just become too dangerous. >> could you comment on ties to international banking in terms of processing all that money? >> international banking organization? >> how in terms of a process that amount of money. >> well, i have a chapter on the money trail in the book, and i researched this. that something when things get real murky and scary in these things. a lot of the money that's connected to the insurgency basically comes through pakistan. some of it seems to get park in real estate. as