. >> telltale sign fresh -- >> i was hit on the trail on the pablo escobar of applegate, the medicalanta grower known only as pa bud. i was close. now i just needed a way to get inside his fortress. >> hey john's pizza forget about t i have a quick question. or maybe i can just try this. >> hello? >> are you pa bud. >> yes, i am. >> can i just come in and interview you. >> come on in. >> braz enleigh he flaunted his wealth on his log cabin beds and breakfast. >> a woodland empire fitting for a drug kingpin. >> i don't consider by self a drug king, first of all i don't deal with ug drs i deal with medicine. >> he played dumb but if it he wasn't a drug lord how do you explain his vicious guard dog. >> troop troop wake up. we have work going on here. >> he's real nimble and agile. >> yeah. >> this kingpin wasn't fooling anyone. >> i done think you could find me anyone in the world that would think i'm a kingpin. >> right you're just dishing out medicine. >> pa, i have seen the property, are you rolling on serious coins. what comes after the money? >> i guess power. >> and then after the

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