and i turned 20 in 1993, which was the year in which pablo escobar died at the height of his threatsmbian system. so that's that. do you, do you think, when you reflect on it — and of course, i'm mindful you were writing in europe about this colombia of corruption, of chaos, of violence — do you think you were expressing in a way, a sort of deep fear and anger about what had happened to your homeland? frustration in a sense, but mainly — mainly uncertainties, maybe mainly the feeling that the stories that were being told were not complete. i think i write out of a sense of darkness, of shadows in the collective story of my country, and i think of fiction as a way to shed some light, particularly, on that, on that very special place in which the historical meets private lives, in which private individuals, as brothers and sisters and lovers and fathers and siblings, they have... they suffer the consequences of politics and history and those forces that we have never learned quite how to, how to control, but that do change our lives. and this is the territory of our human experience th

retired dea special agent steve murphy, who helps take down pablo escobar, joins us in just a minute, but we begin first with griff jenkins, live here in washington. it seems like there was a mutual interest between the chinese and the mexican cartels in this instance. >> exactly, gillian. this wasn't your average money-laundering scheme. this was a sophisticated criminal partnership, the sinaloa cartel working hand-in-hand with underground chinese money launderers, and they have been in the excess of $50 million with specific motivations for everybody involved. >> the cartels are desperate to get cash made for the sale of drugs in the united states, back down to mexico, without having that cash seized by u.s. for mexican authorities. the chinese money-laundering groups, on the other hand, are in the business of helping wealthy chinese nationals obtain cash in this country. >> the multiyear investigation dubbed "operation fortune runner" carried out by the doj, the dea, chinese and mexican law enforcement delivered an indictment involving 24 defendants. the lead suspect, edgar joe mar

i'm saying the longer with us lot, whether it's escal, pablo escobar violating you, as long as we're going to send a, a team to kill you. right? for trip for drug trafficking, i mean it's all part of the same mentality, isn't it? so one last question before i let you go is done isn't being criminalized i this rains and are you afraid to be outspoken? yeah, yeah. well, i think, you know, again, journalism has been criminalized, you know, going back to you can say that, you know, the prosecution of daniel ellsberg, all of that fell apart. but again, that was leaking in the pentagon papers 50 years ago. and it's the same principle at heart, which is to say, you know, you cannot reveal what they call national security. well, as we know, national security is kind of a joke. i mean, whatever someone in, you know, you name it in pentagon or state department or the executive decides is national security. right. that they, they the market as such. that's why to this day the, the j f. k documents we, we've talked about this on the program before, right? the jazz k documents are still glass of

we will dig into that with the former dea agent who caught pablo escobar.the hour as america reports. >> there's maganomics, and then bidenomics. americans are saying that they don't think they will be able to afford a home. mortgage crisis is up over 100% since before the pandemic. renting is not much better as prices soar across the country. fox business is kelly so very is here to tell us about this latest surge. >> right now, fueling inflation. this is keeping the fed from lowering interest rates. >> that's the number one killer of the marketplace right now. i think shelter inflation is the largest problem with inflation coming down. we are stuck in the low threes of inflation, which shelter inflation is over 5%. >> this as the president of the new york federal reserve telling fox business just yesterday that he expects interest rates to come down in the next few years. and this could of course help housing affordability. let's look at the top four housing markets with over 1 million people to see about a 5% rise in average over the last year. this is l