i am addressing the pac and the pac is part of what we were fighting in the disclose because that is where the big money was going. we have the votes on the floor to pass background check legislation but we are not able to get a vote because of the nra. any broadbased organization like that they will apply to. both members have an f-rating, i think f-minus even, from the nra. this issue is really as you know a deadly serious one for all of us. there is a reason we haven't passed gun safety. the difference between the republicans and democrats are clear even though we have a jane thompson bill that i hope we have a chance to vote on. you are getting into territory that is a high priority for all of us. to have any blurring of the d distinction of the republicans and democrats is disservice to the safety and trying to discharacterize this act which was our only window of opportunity. somebody said they did it so they can get the blue dogs to vote for the bill but 20-some blue dogs voted against the bill. our caucus did including the overwhelming black caucus. >> more broadly speaking o

superillion by supporting the various -- by super pacs.e will get into the various numbers this morning on "washington journal" but that massive fundraising and how it electionng up each cycle causing concern. here are some recent numbers from pew on concerns and the money about money -- in america about money and politics. when asked to name the biggest problem they see with elected officials, the influence of special interest money on those elected officials tops the list of named problems. most americans including majorities in both parties believe that new laws will be effective in reducing the role of money in politics. pew research center noting majorities across demographics and partisan groups say there should be limits on campaign spending. that money's impact on politics has increased and the high cost of campaigns is driving good candidates away. some of those who are concerned about money and politics made their voices heard yesterday in front of the united states capitol in washington, d.c. hundredshe headline " of democracy s

are they donated the money they are donating to the super pac? guest: you certainly covered a lot of topics in that question. the panama papers, money being stored by individuals off-shore, but the issue does not have much to do with campaign finance. pac'se look at the super and citizens united, this argument that widespread corruption, i have not seen this play out. see anyone standing up saying they're paid for and bought four by a corporation. i do not see anyone saying i am corrupt as of campaign finance law. it does not happen. i think citizens united has given more voice to more people and that is great. the more we process, the better. i think the question of corruption, again, the united states being a eakin of how you actually try to fight for democracy and corruption remains a large question. about howt to talk policy -- you do not have to go to much further than chuck hagel. group that i work with called issue one, a bipartisan of money and the role in politics, a film i would recommend to everyone, and mr. role oflk about the special

own legal, i run my practice by representing super pac's. if you have questions, phone minds are open. we will get to the calls. robert is in harrison, arkansas, a democrat. robert, good morning. caller: good morning. i think this is a timely topic. i understood that nonprofits were specifically for welfare purposes only. as we have seen it go, now we have two major players. we have organized labor and the chamber of commerce. and through these, they take partisan stance. the first thing i would suggest is that nonprofits lose their status if they are not for social welfare purposes. in germanyas a pow and the red cross was there. they were not picking politics. the man that is there that is legal counsel for these pacs, you are there for profit. you are making a living. you are a business. that needs to be taken care of. corporation with an individual, they should be limited like any other individual. if it is $2500, like it is here in arkansas, the corporation -- i think it is outrageous to think they would be considered a person. it is an

she has not just one, but a number of super pac's.reported, they listed 25 million from special interest. 15 million from wall street alone. but it is not just super pac's receiving -- giving her substantial sums of money. it is the fact that today she has reported that she has given speeches before wall street for $225,000 per speech. now, if you give a speech for $225,000, must be a pretty dam good speech. [cheers and applause] must be a brilliant and insightful speech analyzing all of the worlds problems. must be a speech written in shakespearean prose. that is why i believe that secretary clinton should share that speech with all of us. [cheers and applause] it is not just how we raise our money. policy issue of our time in which we disagree. in 2002, secretary clinton was in the senate and i was in the house. we heard the same evidence from george bush and dick cheney about whether or not we should go to war in iraq. i listened very, very carefully. i didn't believe what they were saying. i voted against that war. [cheers and app

i know these guys involved. >> to be fair, i run a super pac, kelly ann runs a super pac.e, citizens united, people have been in the game understand if you have a super pac, you cannot coordinate with a committee. that is totally against the law. the way these people end up communicating is by having a press release and having the press write about it. everything is communicated, but they don't show them ads before they run. here's the thing. the reason you have a candidate super pac and do this is to run negative ads against your opponent. negative campaigning works. nobody likes to do it, but super pacs can come in, this is where outside money comes and they can run negative ads against candidates they're running against and the other candidate has deniability because they actually weren't coordinating with that payment. >> it's complicated. this is very complicated. this is pretty easy. stay with me everyone, the democrats going to take center stage in the brooklyn debate thursday night. and they're mixing it up on the campaign trail tonight, but is john kasich the repu

we don't even know where this money for the super pac's is coming from. had llc's that have made contributions. that there is disclosure for super pacs is a bit of a misleading characterization. host: citizens united is not the first ruling on money and politics. what was the legal precedent that this case was built on. when you hear people blame citizens united for a lot of things -- decades of legal precedent have made clear that money is speech. host: what was that case about? guest: this is about whether or not you could curtail how much an individual can that candidate could spend on their own race and you cannot limit that. money is speech, it is a proxy for speech. guest: i think this notion that money is speech is not exactly what buckley said. there are a number of issues at play in buckley, everything from expenditure limits, contribution limits, limits on independent expenditures and what candidates can spend, themselves. the court in that case did not say money is speech, but it did say that very serious implications for the first amendment. i

>> there are multiple super pacs for mr. cruz, as all of you know. >> saying it's not yours. >> ours is the only pro-cruz super pac that's recognized by the ted cruz campaign as a super pac. when you lose a primary, you say it is a bad day for the home team and you move on. you say congratulations and you say, i'll see you on my home turf in new york. it's one thing to hurdle insults about someone's wife. but it is quite another to accuse ted cruz himself and professionals who have been at this long as you have, ed, of committing a felony and breaking a law. we could just brush it off, but it shows you the danger of saying things that aren't true and getting people to believe it and getting 20,000 people at a rally today to lap it up if it was true. >> you weren't the one that wrote that statement, but does anyone have any say on something like that? or did you get a chance to give him advice on how he should say he lost or does he do that on his own? >> that's not my part of the campaign. i'm chasing delegates. mr. trump's

i worked for the super pac but i met with campaign officials before i met with the super pac.looking for 15 minutes? no. i'm really not. i felt very convicted about writing this letter. a reporter reached out to me last week which is what set this in motion and the out pouring of support i received for people who said i had strength and courage to say something against him has been overwhelming. so i don't. at the end of the day, you know, i'm happy to go home and be with my family and not ride this wave. but i feel like i did the right thing. >> so, stephanie, again, mentioning the super pac, you say that you and one other person were working there when things fell apart in october that you were following all the rules. so why did it fall apart? >> we had a series of reporters digging and digging. there had been some former trump campaign people who were let go and were disgruntled and were going to the media planting information and so the media was coming to us and it just became overwhelming because we started to look like we didn't have a leg to stand on and we didn't wan

none of the democrats have taken money from company pacs.the top executives is an issue that may distinguish sanders and camp -- and the lobbyists as well. we defined his pledge by these three categories because in fact, clinton has a ready pledged not to take any money from top executives, lobbyists, the privateacs from prison industry. we think it is pretty safe and pretty easy for her to do o the same for the fossil fuel industry. amy: how does she compare to the republicans? >> the republicans have taken far more money. this is a no-brainer. honest all of them, with the exception of john kasich, are outright climate deniers. they of outside super pacs that are taking millions of dollars, in some cases well over $10 million, from very large industry representatives and investors. amy: "the washington post" has also challenged your research. they gave you three pinocchios. can you explain, and how do you respond to that? -- they're looking at the big picture and saying the $300,000 comes from low-level employees, in the case of clinton, an

super pacs have only been around since 2010, but there's actually a movement by this our principals pac to play in the delegate selection process to go into these states and try to figure out who these delegates are loyal to and steer attendees to vote for delegates to support someone other than trump. >> you have phone banks calling up these potential delegates all over the country and asking them how they feel. fascinating read. thank you all for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> coming up, paul ryan says no way, not running for president. you listen to the words he used. you decide does he really mean it. radio host hugh hewitt will join us to react to the paul ryan news and some of the marco rubio news. >>> last night bill o rielley brought up tavis smiley and when he talked about it being about tattoos on black men's foreheads. hillary clinton goes after bernie sanders. if you listen to hillary clinton you would think that guns from vermont are a major crime problem in new york, but the people fighting crime in new york don't think so. ♪jake reese, "day to

, we have said no to super pacs, said no to the billionaires who fund those super pacs -- [ cheers anduse ] -- and what we have done is in an unprecedented manner in american history, we have up to this point in the campaign received over 6 million individual campaign contributions. [ cheers and applause ] anyone here know what the average contribution is? >> $27! >> that's exactly right. smart crowd. $27. this is a campaign of the people, by the people and for the people. we have decided that we do not represent the billionaire class, we do not represent wall street or the drug companies or the fossil fuel industry. [ cheers ] and we do not want their money. [ cheers and applause ] what momentum is about is my belief that if we wake up the american people and if working people and middle-class people and senior citizens and young people begin to stand up, fight back and come out and vote in large numbers, there is nothing that we cannot accomplish. [ cheers and applause ] and what we have been seeing throughout this campaign is extraordinary voter turnouts in state after state after s

it establishing a super pac. the mange super pac reported 25 million from special interest including 15000000 from wall street. >>> on the report side, donald trump raised only 2.7 million in march, far behind cruz's 12 million and such sich 4 million. trump wrote his campaign a loan. >> companies and china and they have powerful lobbyist in washington and the senators and congressman. i am self funding. i will solve the problem. >> wonning doesn't turn out cheap and losing is not cheap either. >> a frajil ceasefire. and crews are at the scene of a deadly aircraft. >> and newest call painting a chilling picture of what happen. >> you think they are both dead. is there anybody else in the house. the wolf was huffing and puffing. like you do sometimes, grandpa? well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. so i talked to my doctor. she said... symbicort could help you breathe better, starting within 5 minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a re

it establishing a super pac.he mange super pac reported 25 million from special interest including 15000000 from wall street. >>> on the report side, donald trump raised only 2.7 million in march, far behind cruz's 12 million and such sich 4 million. trump wrote his campaign a loan. >> companies and china and they have powerful lobbyist in washington and the senators and congressman. i am self funding. i will solve the problem. >> wonning doesn't turn out cheap and losing is not cheap either. >> a frajil ceasefire. and crews are at the scene of a deadly aircraft. >> and newest call painting a chilling picture of what happen. >> you think they are both dead. yes, we are twins. when i went on to ancestry, i just put in the name of my parents and my grandparents. i was getting all these leaves and i was going back generation after generation. you start to see documents and you see signatures of people that you've never met. i mean, you don't know these people, but you feel like you do. you get connected to them. i w

pac.ruz knew about it, you are alleging he lied and violated federal law. ted cruz had to defend his own honor, and b, he had to defend his wife. he did it quite well. go ahead. al: if you get on the issues, what issues do you think are good for -- what one or two issues do you think you can really sort issues against donald trump on that have -- a lot of them have not worked so far. kellyanne: the fact that ted --z has $2 billion in free does not have the $2 billion had, hethat trump has said you are not electable, too far right, wait your turn. it is quite remarkable that so many other people were supposed to win but were not. from the know him fight against obamacare. you have all republican senators in washington who want to repeal this, but only one man, ted cruz, stood on his feet for 21 hours on the floor of the united states senate. so i agree that i would like to hear more about these plans to replace obamacare. ted cruz is talking about the tax plan, destroying isis, not being ne

pac. cruz knew about it, you are alleging he lied and violated federal law. a, ted cruz had to defend his own honor, and b, he had to defend his wife. he did it quite well. go ahead. al: if you get on the issues, what issues do you think are good for -- what one or two issues do you think you can really sort issues against donald trump on that have -- a lot of them have not worked so far. kellyanne: the fact that ted cruz does not have the free $2 billion coverage that trump has had -- he said you are not electable, too far right, wait your turn. it is quite remarkable that so many other people were supposed to win but were not. people do know him from the fight against obamacare. you have all republican senators in washington who want to repeal this, but only one man, ted cruz, stood on his feet for 21 hours on the floor of the united states senate. so i agree that i would like to hear more about these plans to replace obamacare. ted cruz is talking about the tax plan, destroying isis, no

doesn't have, but a super pac that's raising huge amounts of money. it's a pattern. it's the same thing. it's the reason hillary clinton has refused to release the transcripts from her speeches to goldman sachs. because it is a pattern. it is the same reason that she supported corporate trade agreements. she is a moderate corporate supporting person who is been awash in this corporate money her whole entire political career. she does not want to answer those questions. >> even if you count the super pac dollars john is talking about, this is less than 2% of the clinton fundraising. i think the idea of buying anybody's favor -- >> it would be more than $3 million. that's a lot of money. >> it is not insignificant, but i think the idea they're buying favor is nuts. two, let's talk about lobbyists. i've been up in martha's vineyard at their fancy annual retreat where senator sanders is up there helping the democratic senate campaign committee raise money. i would never try to besmirch his integrity for being there unless i had evidence of him buying favo

>> now, i run my own legal practice of pacs, super pacs. >> meredith mcgehee pollty director at the campaignenter. phone lines are open. we eat get to the phone calls. robert in harrison, arkansas. a democrat. robert, good morning. >> caller: good morning. i think this is a timely topic. i understood a nonprofit was specifically for welfare purposes only. and as we have seen it go, now we have two major players. wefr got organized labor and the chamber of commerce and through these they take partisan stands and the first thing i would suggest is nonprofits lose their status if they are not for social welfare purposes only. my father's a p.o.w. in germany and the red cross was there. they weren't picking politics. so the man that is there that is legal counsel for these pacs, you're there for profit. you're making a living like -- you're a business. that needs to be taken care of. and then a corporation between an individual -- once -- they should be limited just like any other individual if it's $2,500 like it is here in arkansas, then that corporation itself could only speak i think it's ou

, we have said no to super pacs, said no to the billionaires who fund those super pacs. >> reporter: sanders talked about his record-breaking number of small donations and pointed to polls that have him defeating donald tru >> when you look at national polls or you look at statewide polls, we are defeating donald trump by very significant numbers. defeating donald trump by very significant >> reporter: sanders said he thought clinton was getting nervous because he believe ez has an excellent chance to win both here in wyoming and he said in new york. reena, kendis. >> our thanks there. >>> and hillary clinton spent last night in her home state of new york looking ahead to the next big primary. >> but clinton tweeted her congratulations to sanders and thanked her supporters in wisconsin. abc's liz kreutz covers the clinton campaign for us. good morning, liz. >> reporter: good morning. hillary clinton's campaign expected this loss in wisconsin but it doesn't make it any better. she has now lost six out of the last seven contests. that's something her campaign aides are quickly trying t

pac supporting ted cruz.>> what, do we have one for every state? >> you heard trump saying this is a dirty rotten process, do you agree with it? >> it's going to get real dirty. >> they spent more time on tv this week and learning the rules. >> this delegate process that he is saying is so unfair, trump has won 45% of the delegates in this process, but he only won 37e37 e 37% of the popular vote. he has to get smarter about the rules. >> heres the thing, as sarah just reported most of those delegates, many of them are local party leaders, republican people, and i wish mentor would would -- i wish cnn would pay attention, because many feel betrayed. >>> and trump has a crushing lead for new york, 69%, mark, of primary voters think whoever has the most delegations going into the convention, which is what donald trump's campaign is saying as well should get the nomination. do you think republicans across the board agree with it? >> i think they don't understand the system, quite frankly, and whether or not you l

this is a reason why we should get rid of super pacs.he candidate should be responsible for his campaign, not somebody else, the candidate. as long as this goes on, you will get accusations like this and he is not alone in this. >> hold on. everybody hold on for a moment. we need to take a break and once again we are waiting for ted cruz. he will be answering reporters' questions in new york city. there you see a crowd has gathered. we will have live coverage of that. he had a big victory in wisconsin yesterday. raising the odds of a contested convention for the republicans in july in cleveland. how exactly would that play out? our tom foreman takes us through the delegate shuffle coming up up. also, donald trump's national campaign spokeswoman is standing by to join us, as well. we will have her reaction to the loss to trump in wisconsin and the dhanss this will come down to a floor fight in july. i'm a customer relationship i'm roy gmanager.ith pg&e. anderson valley brewing company is definitely a leader in the adoption of energy effic

the money is shifting to be super pac's.n some cases to other organizations where they can accept unlimited contributions. >> do you think that is good? >> i think it is not a great trend for democracy. we believe that every citizen has the same rights. fines thethink the fcc up -- imposes are enough of a deterrent? >> i think they are an important deterrent. it is important that the agency does play a significant role in monitoring and making sure people that violate the law are held accountable. we have seen challenges in that regard. >> if -- are you working to stop the breakers? >> i think this agency has works and can work. think it needs to be restructured, six commissioners, by law no more than three can work for one party. some people think it is designed to gridlock, i think it is designed for compromise. unfortunately, remise is in short supply around here. the sluggishness should concern you, candidates are raising a ton of money. 2016 presidential candidate jeb has already raised four times more than every candid

there anything that would indicate there is something illegal going on with ted cruz and his super pacs and i guess the days of the gracious concession speeches from donald trump are long gone. >> let's remind your viewers that ted cruz and donald trump hate each other personally. >> recently. >> yes. >> there's still etiquette in these things, isn't there? >> i don't think donald trump believes in etiquette. to answer your question, there isn't a shred of evidence to show ted cruz colluded or coordinated with a super pac, so that's false. it looks like donald trump is grasping at straws. trump did what he needed to do in that statement, which is accusing ted cruz of being the establishment's choice because this -- on the republican side is an anti-establishment election. if the electorate believes that, that reinforces trump's argument. >> to talk about cruz's win, how much was this a vote for ted cruz as opposed to, you know, just a never trump vote? >> i think it was all of the above. it was a vindication for the gop establishment, for the establish nment wisconsin, and was a landsli

that figure does not include super pacs, of course.ive sanders a reason to keep fighting. even if he doesn't surpass clinton in pledged delegates his war chest makes it possible to realistically stay in the race until the convention. the democratic primary eight years ago, then-candidate barack obama was ahead in delegates as well as drawing crowds and money. the 2008 campaign, hillary clinton's campaign was in debt by the time she conceded the race to obama. the real reason most campaigns end is they run out of money, or they lose. they can't continue. the question is, what happens if your campaign is not running out of money? joining me, political reporter for the "new york times" nick confessore. this question of how, i don't know, extraordinary this fund-raising apparatus they put in place has been. >> it's the first time in history it's happened, i think. look, sanders runs on solar power. he's the first candidate to run on solar pawer. he never runs out. his people give to him even if it's not looking good for him. the usual indu

for cal, megan has won pac 12 player of the week. >> it was interesting. saw the article like yeah, that's awesome. >> reporter: actually, she's just the sixth player in pac 12 history to win player of the week honors at least five times in her career but personal accolades aside, ending the regular season with a team win at the home of cal's arch rival is all she cares about right now. >> anything better than beating stanford? winning ncaa would be awesome. beating sanford is always really satisfying. >> reporter: the season finally is this saturday, the big slam at stanford. in berkeley, colin rush, nbc bay area. >> the summer olympics less than four months away but the torch will begin the trip to rio and the first torch barer. royal champion gymnast of greece will receive it next thursday. the torch will go through 329 towns and cities until it reaches opening ceremony. the flame will be used to light of course the olympic caldron. >> so cool to see that olympic flame go through all the cities around the world. >> quite amazing. you got the honored of

i think that what that shows is what the super pac, their super pac is seeing the same thing as what we're seeing, which is donald trump is hemorrhaging support among women. crin jansing reported to you in wisconsin, 77% of women have an unfavorable view of him. this is supposed to be a swing state that donald trump and his team has said he could do well in in a general election. he's going to get massacred with numbers like that. the fact that his campaign manager abused a woman, then they hired an attorney that had a history of biting a stripper and being fired for it, and donald trump's disgusting and demeaning comments about heidi cruz and carly fiorina, he has major problems, and even his super pac can see it. >> so tim, is it too late? >> absolutely not. look, i think there's still an opportunity for ted cruz to pass him in delegates. and even if he doesn't, if donald trump gets short of 1237, the rules are the rules. you have to get a majority, and donald trump is not on pace to do that. we just saw the news yesterday. he broke the pledge that he signed in south carolina to su

here are some, if you have a super pac unqualified, hillary clinton has a super pac, so does barack obama. if the super pac takes money from wall street, unqualified. barack obama's super pac took money from wall street. if you're for trade deal, ba rack obama trying to push through a major trade deal, has backed trade deals in the past. he's saying hillary clinton is unqualified but he's attacking hillary clinton on things barack obama is just as vulnerable on, isn't he? >> this has nothing to do with president obama. >> all the things he's laying out applies to barack obama. >> but president barack obama's not running for re-election. senator bernie sanders is running against secretary hillary clinton. not president barack obama. and it's just -- it's just -- it's just weak right now to continue to bring the president into this argument. he is not running. senator sanders is running against secretary of state hillary clinton. he said what he said and that's the end of it. let's keep running the race and debating differences between the two candidates, which the differences are vast, and

trump, but he was coordinating with his own super pacs which is illegal.ed cruz is worse than a puppet. he's a trojan horse attempting to steal the nomination from mr. trump. we have confidence that mr. trump will go on to win in new york where he holds a substantial lead in the polls and beyond. donald trump will hold a campaign rally here. later this week he will be in california for a press conference. they have their eyes on these two big delegate prizes. >> the two biggest delegate prizes of this race. jake, back to you. >> let's talk about what donald trump might be referring to with our panel. the only thing i can find out and i've asked the trump campaign for comment and i've not gotten any word back, is that they have been upset about the fact that in wisconsin ted cruz would go to rallies and the rallies would be basically hosted by a super pac that he was not -- that cruz was not supposed to be coordinating with. it's the keep the promise pact. we saw this with other campaigns on the road. carly fiorina would be out there and the super pac would

joining us now is the founder of our principals and anti-trump pac. and stuart stevens and back with us charlie sykes, radio host in milwaukee. he has endorsed ted cruz and he's one of the leaders of the stop trump movement. charlie you succeeded in wisconsin on the stop trump movement and the case i'm making is yes they ran ads against donald trump, but i don't see any more effective voice against donald trump than donald trump's own voice. that's what you used in effect against him in that interview with him. >> yeah. the unfortunate thing is that nothing seems to move the hard core trumpcans, even that really creepy, but we discovered we can put together a coalition of the sane and in wisconsin there's going to be 35% or so of people who are going to accept anything that donald trump says, no matter what, but then you have the 65% to 7 0% of republican conservatives who look at this and go this man is unfit to be president of the united states. this is appalling behavior. there are the folks out there, the coalition of the decent and sane. hopefull

eight different super pac's supporting him now. there are three that are just emily's donating's $10 million -- just families donating $10 million or whatever. it is not exclusive to one candidate. the only candidate that does not an official super pac associate with him is donald trump and then bernie sanders. but we have found there are some , nursesl super pac's unions and whatnot, supporting him as well. it is a complex system we live in now. is calling on the independent line from maryland. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you? guest: good. caller: thank you for taking my call. am just now trying to understand the political process. are the health care systems when it comes to the political process and dumping money into political parties? is reason why i want to ask -- we have decent insurance. $790 a montharound for her insurance. the last two years, our deductible has gone up and out. it is at the point where we cannot see a doctor because i see an $800 deductible to one. how can they get away with this? host: i

one pac cleans tough food better than 6 pacs of the bargain brand combined. cascade.more like this. s. show me "previously watched." what's recommended for me. x1 makes it easy to find what blows you away. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinity. >>> it's over, it's over. now cruz, cruz said john kasich should get out because he has no path. i mean, not even close. he has won one out of 38, well, cruz has only one what? ten or 11? i have won 22 or 23, millions of votes ahead. i think they both should get out. what are they doing? >> so is donald trump right and should bernie sanders say good-bye, too? i visited several out at a new york city diner, take a look. >> i'm looking at his french fries and they look fantastic, should bernie sanders get out? >> bernie sanders should keep on. >> what do you say to people who say that there is no way bernie sanders can make it? >> just because he can't win the nomination straight out doesn't mean he can't influence the party. >> the race is absurd. >> why? >> we don't really have any candidates that represent the

she's established a number of super pacs and in the last filing period her major super pac reported 25illion from special interests including $15000000 from wall street. >> on the republican side, donald trump who is self-funding his campaign raised only $2.7 million in march, far behind ted cruz's 1.5 million and john kasich's 4.5 million. trump did write his campaign an $11.5 million check in march. >> reporter: companies and china itself and they all have powerful lobbyists in washington. i'm self-funding my campaign folks. >> reporter: my football coach used to say winning doesn't come cheap, but it turns out in politics, losing isn't too cheap either. in washington, i'm garrett tenney, fox 5 news. >> "the hill" and fox 5 together discussing the race for the white house. join ronica, bob and tom at 8:30 before fox news sunday. >> the trump campaign says we'll see a new candidate on the trail. you'll hear from the man behind the planned makeover of donald trump. it's a fox news sunday exclusive. >>> then bernie sanders says he still has a shot at the democratic nomination as hillary

we don't want a super pac. opponent, we're not raising millions of dollars from wall street or the fossil fuel industry or the drug companies. amy: we will speak with a member of the federal election commission, ellen weintraub. she is calling for greater enforcement of campaign finance regulations. her latest piece in the "new york times" is headlined, "taking on citizens united." all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. it's primary day in wisconsin. polls suggest it could be a big day for the underdogs as democratic contendnder bernie sanders and republican ted cruz have seen a surge in suppoport n recent weeks in the badger state. after wisconsin, the next big state on the primary calendar is new york. on monday, hillary clinton and bernie sanders have agreed to hold a debate in brooklyn ahead of the april 19 primary. it wilill be april 14. meanwhile, the latest fundraising numbers show sanders, who has won five of the last six con

that is like three times what super pacs -- all super pacs combined did spend on hillary clinton in the primary campaign thus far. i know at one level or another like all very large numbers start to sound alike, especially all very large numbers with dollar signs on them. like once you get above an a that you can personally imagine it is all just big numbers. but $90 million worth of ads against donald trump and for hillary clinton? 90? that is -- enormous. just for context, the a one point in this presidential race we thought that jeb bush might chase all the other republican candidates oupt of the race because he had raised $100 million for his campaign. 1 $00 million for everything. for his whole effort. this $100 million. right? that was supposed to be shock and awe, everybody else gets out. this one ad buy for clinton and against trump is going to be $90 million? i mean how are they going to do is? looking at the most fek filing for usa action. they only have half of that cash on hand. so $90 million in ads against trump and for clinton? do they plan to raise another $45 million be

i said i don't have a pac. i don't have -- you know, all these guys have these phony pacs.aw where cruz the other day had an event run by his pac. that's not allowed! you're not allowed to do that. they said it was paid for and run by his pac. you're not allowed to do that which is, that's a whole other story. but this guy comes up, he said, i'd like to give you whatever money you want for your campaign. i said, i can't take it. he looked at me and said you're kidding, right? he's a business guy. i said, no, i can't take it. i have turned down so much money, if i would have accepted -- i think bush, jeb, had the biggest of all the pacs. he had, like, $148 million or something, and i think it got even a lot bigger than that. i could have had that times four or five if i would have taken the money. and coming over i said, you know, i don't think it's appreciated. and i'm not knocking you. but when people look at me and then they look at this guy, cruz, who's totally control by the people that give him the money, 100% totally controlled. but when they give him that money or wh

growth, and our principles pac.oesn't it sound benign? our principles. sole mission is to destroy trump at any cost. the romney related our principle's pac is turning to the delegate fight. looking for anti-trump delegates in the event of a contested convention, trump already battling to keep delegates in arizona and arkansas, louisiana, tennessee, virginia. unprecedented effort and ground operations being bankrolled by billionaires like stan hubbard, paul single, the ricketts family as well. speaking of the ricketts family, todd ricketts reportedly planning a meeting of top republican done nors new york city next week. speaker paul ryan may be in attendance. despite urging delegates today to, quote, count me out as he put it for the gop nomination. i believe the republican establishment and the elites are apoplectic as they watch their influence over presidential candidates and presidential politics just dwindling. so for now, what will the establishment and the elites do to win? and is there any possibility that t

which is an anti-trump super pac.>> everyone wants an endorsement, of course, but endorsements have been relatively meaningless in this election. we have seen governor healey endorse, governor la page in maine. the governor in indiana, as great a conservative as he is, is locked in a tough re-election battle. his approval ratings were lagging in november "the indianapolis star" was reporting on that and he's having a tough fight in his own race. >> wouldn't that mean you'd want to go with a winner. >> jim garrity, wouldn't that be a reason not to endorse? look, if he's endorsing and ness a tough race, if he's endorsing and he wants to be president in 2020, what does that speak to? >> well, if he wants to be president in 2020, i guess he's figuring any one of these folks will be one-term presidents. a point there. look, you'd rather have the endorsement than not have it. pence has his own political troubles. i think if he jumps on the trump train, there are a bunch of never trumpers out there. if you're a consistent co

they, of course, will argue they do not have a super pac.re are some super pacs, some supportive groups that are working on sanders' behalf , on particularly with the nurses, but he does not acknowledge that and they do not encourage super pacs to work on their behalf. >> on the facts and her response, i would parcel out the super pac thing. it's really separate and she doesn't control those, but the sanders' folks say, there is money coming in from what some green activists think is a bad thing and the lobbyists are doing that. so is she angry because she thinks this is unfair or angry just because she thinks she's now earned the presumptive nominee status and doesn't need to be grilled like this anymore. >> i think she's frustrated because this is something that's frankly gotten under her skin. and if you pull back the lens and think about the big picture of this, shelves very much like she wants to start to focus on donald trump. that was evident here, and that sanders in many ways is causing her -- you know, it's so difficult for her to

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the club for growth, the our principles pac, make america awesome and never trump pac.th josh all they would do is blow a lot of money. because it is a expensive media market and disparate it would you be able to work? >> 100% agree with josh, joy. let me put an underscore. i turned on this morning -- doing my show prep and turned on espn. and after i got down with shaking my head over the wrong predictions, i watched a documentary "30 for 30" about the usfl and it turned out it was actually a documentary about trump when he bought the new jersey generals and took brian sooip away from cleveland, signed doug flutie, turned the league upside down. and i'm watching this for 30 minutes on espn, and i realized that in new york, no one's mind is going to change between now and tuesday on donald trump. zero. no one. no amount of money can change anyone's mind about donald trump in new york. and that's why no one should spend a nickel there. >> but the thing is, i'm going to stay with you for a second. as a movement guy, is it not surprising to you that the republican party, w