. >> you just saw the woman go into the paddy wagon. i'm going to pan left and i'm going to show you some additional police that just arrived on scene. several trucks and several cars have just arrived as backup. we're going to continue panning left and i'm going to show you where the other gentleman who was arrested who did suffer the injury, he is being treated over here by both fire and police officers. they placed him up against the wall, and they're treating his cuts on his forehead. now, we're going to go back over to the paddy wagon where some officers are making announcements, and we see yet another arrest. this gentleman in the v-neck t-shirt was brought over from the other side of pennsylvania avenue, and he'll be put in the other side of the paddy wagon that we have discussed so often when we have talked about freddie gray, the fact these wagons are separated in two, sometimes three separate sections for prisoners. >> and tell us right now, it sounds like a police chopper overhead, and the fire truck as well. do you see anybo

we'd lurk between them, hiding in the rice paddies. to fire into the paddies indiscriminately. i lost a soldier who was shot in the chest when he stood up during a meal. i didn't have the luxury of thinking too deeply about it. there was always another battle. we had to scout the enemy and plan our strategy. when i lost young soldiers, the most i could do was offer a silent prayer. they were vietnamese like me, but i despised them. they were enemies, siding with the americans. it was kill or be killed. they were being supplied with weapons and equipment by the americans, so that they could kill us. >> april 30th, 1975. communist forces pour into sig saigon. war is finally over. minh is ready to go home. four years have passed since he enlisted. all that time, he had made no contact with his family. there were rumors in the village he had died. >> translator: i went back north to my family. i didn't tell them i was coming back. i suddenly turned up with my rucksack. they were overwhelmed. they couldn't believe it was me. i was so happy.

it will soon light up footpaths and convenience stores adjacent to rice paddies. it costs twice as much as a regular streetlight. but the manufacturer intends to explore new markets. >> translator: i am pleased that i am off to a good start to help society. i hope this product becomes widespread throughout japan and other east asian countries that cultivate rice. >> reporter: the light developed by the professor is friendly to both humans and rice plants, and it's about to shine a new light on rice farming around japan. nhk world, yamaguchi. >> that's it for business news. i'll leave you with the markets. >>> wednesday marked two months since a powerful cyclone hit the south pacific nation of vanuatu. a team of japanese experts went to vanuatu to try to assess the strength of the storm and the damage it caused. >> reporter: this image of cyclone pam was captured by a japanese radar satellite. the eye of the cyclone is clearly visible. the pressure near the center of the storm reacd 896. the strength of a super typhoon. many buildings were destroyed. and more than

was it in the paddy wagon itself. these are questions yard. each and every charge has to be proven. >> you are basically echoing, geraldo. >> you are echoing the comments of sheriff david clark who thinks this is very political and this was done to try to appease an angry crowd. the prosecutor used terms like our time is now to the people of baltimore. i heard your calls of no justice, no peace. i have got to believe that those comments may come back to haunt the prosecution. >> i think they will and it was a political as i said a judicial/political commentary by the state's attorney. but, imagine you saw what just happened here. you saw the pushing the shoving, the people being arrested. the confrontations between the officers and the demonstrators. imagine, sean, if there was not the arrest of the officers today. that was political but it relieved this community of the ugliest of the tension sean. >> geraldo what you are suggesting here is predicated on very dangerous ground that if this is a political prosecution if this is to appease an an

it will soon light up foot paths and adjacent to rice paddies. it costs twice as much as the regular street light but the manufacturer intends to explore new markets. >> translator: i am pleased that i am off to a good start to help society. i hope this product becomes widespread. throughout japan and other east asian countries that cultivate rice. >> reporter: the light developed by the professor is friendly to both humans and rice plants. and it's to shine a new light on rice farming around japan. rie tamiya nhk world, yamaguchi. >>> that's the latest in business news in this hour. i'll leave you with a check on numbers. >>> russian opposition activists have published a report that says the russian government is deeply involved in the war in ukraine. the report includes evidence compiled by the murdered opposition leader, boris nemtsov. opposition members announced the publication at a news conference on tuesday in moscow. nemtsov collected evidence for the report before he was shot dead in central moscow in february. he was a vocal critic of p

. >> we were going 270 knots and when we touched down we touched down in a rice paddy. just fallow fields. but i'd left the gear behind which broke up the integrity of the cargo compartment where most of the kids were. >> the turbulent and tragic stories of those final days. also in our special look back. >> during the last day, we played god. we determined who would be saved and who wouldn't. and it was heart-rending. we separated families in a wink. because we hadn't planned adequately. >> marianna's michael okwu on "america "america tonight's" michael okwu, on the tough choices 40 years after the fall of saigon. thanks for joining us. i'm joie chen. tonight a special look at a moment in time seared into the memories of many americans but one that 40 years later is slipping into the history books. to many vietnamese who survived it was known as black april as communist forces from the north drove into the south and finally forced the fall of saigon. there was an anguish disbelief and so many fled for their lives. michael okwu, the days he can never terkt. forget. >> i

may be replaced by a worker in mexico, and, you know, the frozen, pre made hamburger paddies will come in on a truck from mexico. the dishwasher in the diner may be replaced by a mechanical dishwasher made in china, if you try to do a nationwide law, unless you knees a national wage, it's -- impose a national wage, which is hard to do, it's hard to prevent jobs being shifted from overseas. >> it's a red herring. technological process is happening all the time. if employers find ways to save costs, they'll take it. the point is you want the jobs to remain to be decent. frankly, the jobs that are low wage, retail and fast food, they are not easily outsourced. we talk about globalization, and outsourcing manufacturing jobs, it's easier to find workers because you can shift your products. you can't outsource a restaurant server, you can't outsource a retail employee. >> what about the other point that it's almost out moded because localies are making minimum wage, that the federal before. >> we need a federal flaw that provide a degent wage. you shouldn't have to win the geographic lottery

does that officer believe that freddie gray was injured inside the paddy wagon or before? >> he believed that freddie gray was injured outside the paddy wagon before. >> while predy gray was being investigated. >> yes. >> now the information is in the hands of the maryland state attorney's office which says it doesn't plan on relying solely on the office. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> before the curfew went into effect, kcnn's miguel cortez talked with those who don believe freddie gray injured himself. here are their concerns. >> they are taking over the street on north avenue. can i show you the crowd here. the concern that they have, that you and chris were just talking about, is -- they say freddie gray did not kill himself. so all of these leads, what they have drawn from them, is that they are strategically placed and there to claim that mr. gray somehow harmed himself. on that side of the street, other side of pennsylvania avenue there, a lot of police presence, they are starting to gather on every corner. the one important thing is the police aren't wearing the rio

i mean i myself i've been in a paddy many a time. and i've been thrown in the back of a paddy wagon. and i've never had a broken spine. you can clearly see from the evidence -- >> but they say his neck injury is consistent with a bolt in the police van. >> so my question is did they throw him in there? >> he was in there by himself and they stopped twice to fix it. i'm on a hard break. thank you for what you're doing. god bless your city. ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm one... i am one of the one's who discovered always discreet underwear for sensitive bladders. it makes me feel secure, confident. i feel protected. i mean i feel comfortable to move in them they move with me. i love always discreet underwear because of the fit. the fabric is very soft. i can wear whatever i want to wear. always discreet has made me a very happy woman. join over 500,000 women who've discovered always discreet underwear. for more stories and your free sample go to always discreet.com. so bladder leaks can feel like no big deal. unbelievable! toenail fungus? seriously? smash

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did he die when he was dragged to the paddy wagon? did he die, effectively, did he get the fatal injury inside the paddy wagon as that vehicle was given a so-called rough ride as it went four different stops, a very leisurely drive to central booking, and by the time they got there the man was basically comatose, basically dead? this is no slam dunk. how do you prove that anybody murdered him? what they have done, i think, what marilyn mosby has done by arresting all six cops and charging them with this big menu of different charges is that she is trying, it seems to me, to get these cops, these various officers, to testify against each other. absent that, absent an eyewitness who says it was officer jones, not officer smith, who caused the fatal injury, how in the world do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone murdered him, murder two is a very serious charge, it contains a disregard to human life, how do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt which one did it unless one of the cops testifies against the person they believe i

does that officer believe freddie gray was injured inside the paddy wagon or before?elieves that freddie gy was injured outside the paddy wagon before. >> before the arrest. >> yes. >> now the information is in the hand of the state attorney's office that does not plan to work solely on police findings. but also the fact their office gathered and verify. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> other stories we are following now, the pentagon says warships may follow cargo ships. it comes after iran's revolutionary guard harassed a u.s. cargo ship last friday. officials tell thn the move was approved based on tensions in the region. >>> on tuesday i iran seized a marshal island's flag vessel using warning shops to force the ship to head into its waters. >> it is considered the fight of the century. we are talking about floyd mayweather and manny pacquiao. they will climb into the ring saturday night in the mgm gym. >> there is a power across the vast country to watch the fight. hopefully, they love their manny. mayweather known for for talking big before a fight, and with 47-0,

. >> you could hear him screaming as they was dragging him to the paddy wagon. >> and coonlt and oversight of officers in the wake of the freddie gray case. >> i was devastated because freddie gray could be any of us. >> the aclu says 17 accountability birblingss including one to establish an independent office to investigate officer misconduct failed in the legislateure. >> it's just human nateure to have an outside pair of eyes is just better in terms of transparency and accountability. >> she said the idea was vetted by both policend lawmakers but the attorney and prosecutors opposed the idea. >> they didn't feel adequately handle -- staffed to handle that. >> what is missing is the trust between the community and law enforcement and without it things are going to continue to occur. >> supporters of tougher police oversight say they believe the gray case will give them momentum with lawmakers next time around. leon: thanks, rich. now a different kind of momentum. happening now, an exciting flight for caps fans much they've got all kinds of momentum now. they won game four in the verizon

they brought in several paddy wagons. they came back and gave them a five minute warning. as the was a discussion between the police and some of the organizers of the protesters calling out the discrepancies and how the curfew was enforced with white neighborhoods getting gentle warnings and black neighborhoods getting pepper's brady and a military-style response, as that happened, a swat team came in, the crowd dispersed quickly. the police are calling it diplomacy, but still the organizations are saying they have had enough of the curfew. it's becoming a source of tension, it is no longer constitutional and they're looking at whether this holds water legally. here is what the police in baltimore said tonight. >> i respect the fact that they came out, but we came to an agreement it's probably in the best interests for them to leave. the last thing we want to do is put on handcuffs. >> i think everybody in baltimore should be out right now, in solidarity with the folks doing it downtown. i don't think it's fair that you are black and you get pepper sprayed, and if you are

wagon, who drives paddy wagons every day and somebody's spine was hurt. >> i don't mean -- can i stop you there, but i want to define this term for everybody because we think of second-degree murder. my response as a layman on this sufficient, first-degree, that means intent that means premeditated. >> and deliberation. >> second-degree doesn't. what's the difference here because it adds this idea of depraved heart? specifically, what does that mean? >> first we need premeditation and deliberation so they had to wake up that morning and want to kill freddie gray. the second-degree would be such circumstances that anybody in those circumstances would know that the conduct that they could would kill in this case freddie gray. that's going to be very difficult to show. involuntary manslaughter which four of the officers were charged with will also be interesting to see how that comes out because what they have to show there is the death can be accidental, which given the theories that are sort of out there, that certainly makes sense, but if it's accidental as a result of some sort of ne

. >> they sort of tossed me in the back of a paddy wagon. >> reporter: christine abbott a college librarianted after a disturbance at her home during a party in 2012. >> they were driving aggressively taking sharp turns, breaking really short. stuff like that. just making me slide around and slam around in the back. >> reporter: abbott has a federal lawsuit pending claiming the ride was meant to punish. police said they do not tolerate that kind of behavior by officers. and today for the first time, federal investigators poured through the rubble of the neighborhood drugstore that became something of a symbol of last week's destruction. determined to find the cause of the blaze, and eventually those responsible. authorities are hoping members of the public will come forward to help identify suspected looters and vandals. they're looking through hours upon hours of security footage from numerous locations around town. the hope is that bringing those to justice responsible for the mayhem and destruction will help this community remain peaceful and moving forward. peter. >> ron allen in baltim

more than a week after isis managed to seize a paddy, new fears the -- seized ramadi, new fears it could capture all of anbar province. >> reporter: thirsty and exhausted, thousands of refugees fled iraq's anbar province on foot out of fear the entire region could soon fall to isis. this man said all our properties and animals were destroyed. we don't know the destiny of our families. more than 40,000 people have escaped since isis took control of ramadi nearly two weeks ago and reportedly carried out public executions as a fear tactic. this isis video showed american- backed iraqi soldiers pulling out of the city. u.s. defense officials said iraqi troops lost the will to fight. iraq's shiite muslim militias have deployed to try to retake the city but security analysts say they could fuel religious tensions among the predominantly sunni population. it's been nine months since the u.s.-led coalition began air strikes against isis and militants are still seizing territory in both iraq and across the board near syria. on wednesday militants captured the ancient city of palmiere and more tha

. >> we were going 270 knots and when we touched down we touched down in a rice paddy. just fallow fields. but i'd left the gear behind which broke up the integrity of the cargo compartment where most of the kids were. >> the turbulent and tragic stories of those final days.

remember that police vans, police vans, not paddy wagon. that's a derogatory term. every time i hear it, i cringe. >> likewise. >> do not say paddy wagon, it's derogatory. go ahead, ryan, what are you seeing? >> that's definitely a point i made earlier in the week. look, don, i want to tell you how we did this. instead of going to pen and north like we have the last few nights, my team decided to follow the helicopter. we saw it circling over several areas of baltimore, then it seemed to hover over what looked like a housing project. we saw what looked like young white people running into the housing projects. we got out and saw officers running behind them. we came into the neighborhood and the people who live here were like, what's going on, what's going on? they didn't know who these kids were who were trying to get away from officers. now they hit the area from four sides all at the same time with the helicopter putting spotlights on them, and then they arrested these kids one by one. you really can't hear them yelling from where we are right now, but they are s

. >> bridget and paddy whyte's son is gay. their video urging a yes vote went viral. >> 20 years ago i probably would have voted no. but now that i know gay people and see the love and joy that can bring to life, and i would be voting yes. >> reporter: the national debate in ireland, just as fierce as it is in the states. >> it's not the natural order for two men or two women to get married and have kids. >> reporter: in dublin overwhelming support. one priest came out in church telling parishioners he's gay. they gave him a standing ovation and a stunning admission from one of ireland's senior catholic clerics who was urging a no vote. >> if this is the view of the young people the hunch has a huge task in front of it. >> reporter: this is a huge shift for a country homosexual acts were illegal into the 1990s. and ireland put this into a national vote. in the u.s. it will come down to nine votes in the u.s. supreme court. cecilia? >> thank you. >>> now back to a deadly plane crash. a family on their way to a college graduatio

. >> we were going 270 knots and when we touched down we touched down in a rice paddy. just fallow fields. but i'd left the gear behind which broke up the integrity of the cargo compartment where most of the kids were. >> the turbulent and tragic stories of those final days. also in our special look back. >> during the last day, we played god.

or rail splits as they've referred to more is more benign sounding than rolling off into the rice paddiest the engineer and conductor are thinking as the train speeds heedlessly on faster and faster. >> all right. it must be like 40, 50 miles per hour at this point. >> i wonder if anyone has ever flown out of their seat out the window. you don't want to be holding a lab dog. >> or baby or anything. >> yeah, try -- in the bathroom and find yourself launched straight up into the ceiling, bringing to a rude conclusion what was already a omnidirectional experience. >> cruising now, very relaxing. >> what kind of beer did you have? ♪ >>> 1,000? making a fist something we do to show resolve. to defend ourselves. to declare victory. so cvs health provides expert support and vital medicines. at our infusion centers or in patients homes. we help them fight the good fight. cvs health, because health is everything. it's tough, but i've managed. crohn's disease. but managing my symptoms was all i was doing. so when i finally told my doctor, he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other me

like this from the justice department 20 years ago -- with handcuffed suspects put in the back of a paddy wagon and driven at high excessive speeds and bounce 'em around a little bit. that's a common practice. it shouldn't happen. and that comes from leadership. >> mm-hmm. >> so, what jim is saying, though, this has been going on okay, for years, and people really have not focused on it, have not been proactive, just reactive like you're alluding to, when it's a crisis. so what does that say? that we have to really look at policies and procedures, how people are going about things, how they're treating human beings -- period. >> correct. >> how they're treating human beings. >> i also think that the case may be more complex than street justice will allow. and i do think that elected leadership in baltimore is grappling with how to lay out a case that may not be quite as simple as, "the cops broke his neck." >> and easily received by -- >> that's the point. and you can just tell from the way in which the mayor of baltimore has spoken very bluntly, then tried to say, "no, no, no, i didn't s

paddy power was the better performer.e downside itv was one of the worst performers of the day. i will give you much more of story behind it in just a moment. it is all to do with audience figures. they're losing eyeballs, does that put off advertising? will we see itv trading that little bit lower. tele-city saga continues. two months ago tele-city agreed to combine with other company. last week they then said they were being bid for by another company in america offering a 27% premium. another potential suitor was being speculated on yesterday. it was expected that another company was coming at it as well. digital realty says they do not intend to make an offer to tele-city. jonathan: caroline hyde, thank you very much. the last 30 minutes or so varoufakis spoke about an economist conference in athens. let me read you the headlines. greece not looking for haircuts on its debt. the haircut word is bad. greek debt must be redesigned, that is what varoufakis said. that is the same story we had a couple of months ago. is it

spirituality, reflection, the serene beauty of the rice paddy, village life. maybe next episode.inadvisable amounts of food and drink. if thailand is one of the best countries to eat in -- >> cheers. >> -- then chiang mai is a particularly good city to find yourself hungry. >> that's the frog. >> that's the frog. it's basically taking that frog, grill him first, hack it up, fry the living bollocks out of it with garlic. >> mm. there's almost an inverse relationship, like the more hideous looking the dish, the more delicious it is. >> as you probably noticed by now, the food here is not pad thai or green curry chicken. there are complex layers of flavor, sophisticated balances, spicy, sour, a little bitter, salty, herby. color and texture are important. crispy, soft, cold, hot. it's exactly this interplay between elements that makes northern thai food so thrilling and so addictive. >> this place is called la gouchung cha. larb is the dish they're known for which is the minced meat salad. >> what's that furry material? >> that's one of the many stomachs of the cow. might be the thi

>> he believes that freddie gray was injured outside the paddy wagon before. >> while freddie gray was arrested? >> yes. >> the baltimore police investigation is now in the hands of findings but also the facts that their officer has gathered the and verified. randy kay, cnn, new york. >> that on the table, i want to bring in sonny hoston and sonny used to live and work here. also former nypd detective and forensic detective. sonny you and i were talking about this. that report that was in the washington post that the other person who was under arrest inside the van that was busy transported said that mr. gray was intentionally banging his head, there is no way, there's no way that another person under arrest would know what the intention of somebody else is. >> i find it very unreliable. there was a sort of metal sheet, partition between the two. he is in police custody when he gives this testimony. this is troubling when a prosecutor's officer investigates its own and police. i think it's troubling when police officers investigate their own. we're hearing so many different accounts fr

legcuffed and these police officers getting a thrill out of tossing you around in a sealed encased paddy wagon. not caring about the broken parts of your body that might occur, not caring about whether you really lived or died. -- whether you really lived or died. not really caring about the oath that they were sworn to when they were hired and when they took that oath to serve and protect. all those things became secondary to their thrill seeing how much havoc and harm they can cause to this black man in baltimore. yeah they thought they would get away with it. that no one would even think to question their decisions their thrill seeking. their conduct. but thank god there is a woman in baltimore who said to them to all the police officers who are like minded such as them, said to the nation no more no more. not this time. you're going to be indicted and you're going to be charged. and that's the way it is. grieving mothers mr. gray's mother, his father, his relatives, his loved ones his friends his neighbors will know there will be justice for freddie gray. i said in chicago there will

they get up to like 600 pounds and they're swimming in water no deeper than a rice paddy. >> really?one has been saying for years peru will be the next big thing as far as restaurants and -- >> it is. this really prove it. >> and we have a chili pepper made with nuts and ants. >> wow, they're huge. >> yeah, huge ants. >> you want to try it? >> yeah. totally. you're not loving that, are you? >> no. >> imagine, you took a lot of acid and then you ate that whole bowl of ants and you go home and you experience violent diarrhea, and, like, you're tripping. it's, like, 4:00 in the morning and you turn around and look at the toilet and all these ant heads floating around in there. it would be cool. >> it would be super cool. only i can't wait. >> now that we've confirmed what we already knew, that peru's food is unequivocally awesome, it seems proper we take a trip back in time to meet the fore ber -- forebearer's of this country's rich cultural legacy. the larco herrera museum in lima has a massive collection of pre-colombian artifacts. looking at them, you get an idea of what these ancien

some included a twitter account for paddy's doomed hat. because he said well if this election outcome is really going to be as bad as the current polls predict, as the exit polls predict i'm going to eat my hat. and another tag, the deposits lost by unsuccessful liberal democrat candidates. every time they get less than 5% they lose their 500 pounds deposit. >> speaks to the extraordinary level of social media and how that was a part of the dialogue in the run up to this u.k. election. even when ed miliband engraved labour's promises there was a #trenda # a # -- hashtag trending. >> another one he actually goinged himself. >> seema you undersold that big stone. it wasn't 6 foot. it was 8'2" and it dwarfed ed miliband. we were like what is he going to do with it? where is he going to put it? >> but the point is i think social media is a dangerous thing and it's been moved throughout the election. the moments that actually undermined the credibility of the losing parties on the night have actually been very engaged in social media and it's b

legcuffed and these police officers getting a thrill out of tossing you around in a sealed encased paddy wagon. not caring about the broken parts of your body that might occur, not caring about whether you really lived or died. -- whether you really lived or died. not really caring about the oath that they were sworn to when they were hired and when they took that oath to serve and protect. all those things became secondary to their thrill seeing how much havoc and harm they can cause to this black man in baltimore. yeah they thought they would get away with it. that no one would even think to question their decisions their thrill seeking. their conduct. but thank god there is a woman in baltimore who said to them to all the police officers who are like minded such as them, said to the nation no more no more. not this time. you're going to be indicted and you're going to be charged. and that's the way it is. grieving mothers mr. gray's mother, his father, his relatives, his loved ones his friends his neighbors will know there will be justice for freddie gray. i said in chicago there will

vatican, where you see pope francis there >>> crossing to the vatican correspondent for the irish times, paddy ag u, joining us from rome to tell us what the canonization means for the region. >> good day for you. the canonization comes at the end of an important week it's the third event this week concerning relations when the holy seer and the state of palestine palestine. wednesday, the bit lateral agreements between holy seer special, and yesterday pope francis received mahmoud abbas, the leader of the palestinian authority, if you will. he received him in a private audience, during which, as they exchanged gifts. the understanding, he said you know, the gift he is giving the angel of peace who destroys the evil spirits of war. you were the angel of peace. then we have two 19th century nuns canonized. all in all, it's an indication of good relations between the holy seer and palestine. to a certain extent to the annoyance of israel. >> these three events that you have listed that we have seen in the past few days is it anything other than a message sent by the vatican, is it anything more

cannot hurt himself with three fractured bones and a voice box broken and you can not do that in a paddyr head and have a head ache but not to the point where you're dead and brutalized like that. >> and officers can't get in? >> they can probably stand that entrance and punch you in your face but what is that going to do. he was definitely injured before he got in the van. >> so, do you hear any conversations -- >> i'm aware of my surroundings. so, as i'm going in i'm listening but as i'm going in i do hear someone say, well you know we did give hame run for his money. he's not breathing. >> that's what they said? >> i don't know who. but i heard police saying that. >> as you were going into the police van. >> >> as i was going into the police station. >> and what did they say? >> we gave him a run for his money. but they weren't saying it like guys we really have a problem here. that's how he said it. >> charges tonight against six officers in the death of freddy gray. so that's just the first step. what happens next? we'll get into that after the break. moment, thinking about people?

moving me with it and they sat me in that seat that's right there by the door and drove me to the paddy wagon and transported me to central booking. >> we thought they put you in the crowd but they put you right into the humvee. sgl they came altogether. i'm in the center and as the car was moving, i was walking with them but then i -- it's like i got sucked in like a vacuum cleaner. it is like the humvee was a vacuum cleaner and i was going in the humvee. >> what were you thinking? >> what did i do wrong? i thought they knew who i was. we had an agreemntsent that if i keep all these protesters peaceful and leave by curfew that i would be safe and protected on my end and i kept my word and they didn't. that's why i was so confused as to why they were grabbing me. >> why were you out there? >> i wanted to stand up for what was right. >> what do you wanted them to know about you? >> that it wasn't my fault and i'll be here until we get answers about police brutality and not in baltimore, but all over the world. and we're going to be positive and stand together as one, i encourage everybod

they did something to him, his body be wobbling back there because he can't hurt himself back of know paddy wagon. they don't strap us in there. >> reporter: tell me again what you actually -- >> what i actually heard? >> reporter: what i -- you actually heard. >> reporter: just little banging. up know what i mean? i know he was back there dying. when we got to the police station, he was dying. he wasn't responding. mr. gray, mr. gray, nothing. they talking about he swallowed something. y'all know he ain't swallowing something. i knew freddie gray was in the van when i got to the police station. >> reporter: okay, i just want to try to keep this focused on that four minute -- you were in the van about four, five minutes with mr. gray. >> i was in the van approximately up to 15, 20 minutes at the most. and then they wait 30 to 35 minutes to get this man some medical attention because they want to cover their [ bleep ]. since they can't cover their [ bleep ] on that, now they're trying to use me as a factor. i don't work with no police, right. and then the second thing is you all got to reali

. >> they sort of tossed me in the back of the paddy wagon. >> reporter: christine was arrested after disturbance at her home during a party in twelve. >> they were braking really short, stuff like that. >> reporter: she claims she was injured and has a lawsuit pending. baltimore has paid millions of dollars to settle similar lawsuits. >> the rough ride concept is well known on the streets and in the community. it's a form of police retaliation. >> when asked about the alleged practice police said they do not tolerate that kind of behavior. maryland's governor has called for a day of peace and prayer. crowds gather once again here in the city. unclear when the national guard will leave, when the curfew and state of emergency will be lifted. officials here taking it one day at a time. >> chuck, good morning to you, all eyes have been on baltimore this week. i know you had an exclusive sit down with john boehner. >> reporter: do you believe we're in a national crisis when it comes to law enforcement? >> i do. when you look at what's happened over the course of the last year you've just

holler at one of their home boys they go to school with and before you know it they're in the back of a paddyppened. so i hope that just the fear of consequence is starting to get injected into the police department, where they will change the way they interact with the community. >> ray kelly an honor and pleasure. thank you so much for your perspective. quick break. we are surrounded by dozens and dozens of people here chanting "no justice, no peace" right in front of baltimore city hall. quick break. back in a moment. (mom) when our little girl was born we got a subaru. it's where she said her first word. (little girl) no! saw her first day of school. (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) the 2015 subaru forester (girl) what? (announcer) built to be there for your family. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. so, what brings you to jersey? well, geico's the #1 auto insurer in new jersey, new york and connecticut. so i just came by to say "thanks." #1, huh? that's great. here you go. a little token of appreci

. >> he believes that the injuries were sustained outside the paddy wagon. if they go back and look at the gps and everything that occurred as they were driving, they can see how fast the driver was going. they can see where the driver was. >> even the conflicting stories would appear to exonerate the officers of homicide charges. even if gray intentionally injured himself, the driver of the police van could be in trouble still. megyn? >> all eyes on that driver tonight, trace. thank you. the next guest is close to two of the arresting officers in this case. he describes them as family men, currently under pressure and says in his opinion, they'd never do something like this. we have agreed to hide his identity and mask his voice to keep him safe. we added quotes at the bottom of the screen to help you understand his voice when it sounds unusual. we know and have verified his real name and occupation and collection to the officers in question. at his request, we'll call him greg. >> greg thank you very much for being here tonight. we appreciate it greatly. i

if they knew it was a legal knife and they throw him in the back of the paddy wagon and they proceed to give him a rough ride and when he should be hospitalized they continue with the ride to torture him for the nastiness that proceeded possibly, then you have a very serious case here. on the other hand, if it's a close call, if the cop in good faith thought it was an illegal knife, he had grounds to put him in custody and take him to the precinct and have him examined further at the precinct. >> it's important to note this doesn't get to the most important issue regardless of if they're chipping away at charges or not on how did freddie gray die. we're talking about the arresting event. how he died that happened right after that, this does not get to that. >> people thought these would be the easiest charges to prove and get convictions on and they could disappear. >> even if the knife was legal, if they abused him, hurt him, they would face those other charges. that's just one part of the case that may go away. he still faces a few other charges as well. >> agree. thanks so much. >

these vehicles these paddy wagons which we've seen that gray was placed in should those be all traded out? i mean should the police forces transition to other vehicles where this is not even a consideration or a possibility? >> well i'll tell you, i don't like those vehicles you can't control your prisoner there, you saw the tight confined space inside those vehicles you get one or two people in there. you're wide open for an attack from your prisoner. so unlike in nypd we use vans we didn't have those when i was a police officer and i don't think they have them now because i've never seen them. the fact if you just put a prisoner in the back seat of a radio car or in a regular van facing forward, buckled in it's a lot safer. even when somebody is in the back of one of these vehicles and they're seat belted, they can still move around like this and bang their head and hit their head, they're still subl subject to being some kind of injury. so i don't think they're really that safe. >> yeah we're hopefully can get more information about the transition to other vehicles we spoke with to

>> when i came up the steps and the cops were taking me out to the paddy wagon, you could hear the roar at the bottom. and then it just got louder and louder. >> i would say that there were at least 10,000 to 15,000 people at every place that he went. >> and every time he showed up, people would just go nuts. like there he is. he had rock star status. >> everybody was so off the hook happy, i mean it was honestly the happiest day there has ever been in san francisco. >> nicely done, dynamic duo, you've saved the city. i have to believe that you worked up quite an appetite. lunch is on the chief of police. >> after a quick burger lunch, miles has one final task. do battle with the penguin, and rescue the san francisco giants mascot, lucille. it's been a long day, and miles is exhausted. but he doesn't give up. >> the chemo port had just been taken out of husband arm a month earlier. and even though the day was for him, i even think that he got that it was bigger than miles. so he summoned the courage to keep it going for the rest of us. so, i mean, that's what batman does. >> i'm convinc