and that's jose padilla. jose padilla was first arrested in 2002. and he was subsequently detained by the military for 3 1/2 years before being charged in civilian court. whether that was the right way to handle the case or not, it is indeed a precedent so it would not have been unprecedented to detain abdulmutallab, who unlike jose padilla was not an american citizen. so that could, in fact, have been done and would not have been unprecedented. the second point my friend from missouri raised had to do with the amount of information that was given. obviously by abdulmutallab. that is, obviously, classified and not for discussion here. but it's evident to me that you're going to get more information over a lengthier period of time than you are over just a few days. and it is clearly not a coincidence that abdulmutallab stopped cooperating once he had his miranda rights read to him. and once he had lawyers who advised him to cease answering questions. so i have a very different view from my friend from missouri on this issue, but i did want to establi

richard reid, padilla, ferris, others all were charged and tried in criminal court and sentenced.ome cases to life in prisonment. just because somebody is going to be put in the criminal legal process does not mean that we don't have other opportunities to get information from them. >> chris: wait, wait. let me ask you specifically. after abdulmutallab got lawyered up, did he stop cooperating with authorities? did he stop talking? >> i'm not going to address exactly what he did before or after he was -- he talked with his lawyer. we got information and we continue to have opportunities to do that. as you talk with the lawyers and you talk with the individuals, as they recognize what they're facing as far as the charges, conviction and possible sentence, there are opportunities to continue to talk about it. f.b.i. has some of the best interrogators in the world. so i'm confident that we're going to continue to be able to work the system and see whether or not -- >> chris: once he has miranda rights he doesn't have to speak at all. >> he doesn't have to, but he knows certain things

there was jose padilla, john walker lind. >> the profile keeps change sng. >> the profile keeps changingu wed yourself to a certain type of individual that you're looking at, perhaps you're going to miss the kinds of people that are actively being recruited by these groups. >> this raises the question of intelligence and what intelligence can be gathered. we also heard this morning john brennan saying there are not turf battles. this isn't about the kind of turf wars that led to the 9/11 missed clues. this is a failure of human intelligence. fran, do you buy that? >> well, if you look at the finger-pointing between the agencies that's going on now, it looks like the very traditional turf wars. i do think there's some amount of human failures. the cia, more than 50% of their workforce joined after 9/11. so you've got a very young, less experienced workforce. so that may -- it may have been to some degree human failure. when we look at what intelligence has provided. john brennan this morning said that he did get a brief. by the way, by the way, we understand all the three-letter agencies

. >> reporter: for now, padilla says catching her favorite chefs on a mini screen will have to do but she can't wait for the sweet sounds of her cooking numbers. >> welcome back. >> reporter: to echo again inside her home. kareen wynter, cnn, hollywood. >> that's it for us. larry king right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> tonight richard heene, the dad who led the whole country to believe his son was trapped in a runaway balloon. he's here, in his interview before he reports to jail this monday. >> this was not a hoax. >> larry: so what was it? heene tells us what really happened, and why he pled guilty. >> i'm going to fight to the death on this thing. >> larry: and how the ordeal has impacted the whole family. the sheriff who once believed him, and the district attorney who prosecuted him will respond, all right now on "larry king live." good evening. two and a half months ago the whole country had t seems feared that a little boy in colorado had floated away in a balloon made by his father. it turned out that falcon heene was safe at home while authorities chased aft

in the past, richard reid, the former shoe bomber, zacarias moussaoui, jose padilla, all of them chanch echarged in crimina court and sentenced to life imprisonment. we have these tools available, whether it's an enemy combatant avenue or charge them criminally. we looked at the cases and decided it was best, in fact, to charge him criminally. >> would there be additional intelligence that could be gleaned by making him an enemy combatant? do you believe that whatever you're learning from him, was the christmas day plot.thing la and the arain bran peninsula? >> we have different ways of obtaining information. a lot of people as they understand what they are facing and their lawyers recognize that there is advantage to talking to us, in terms of plea agreements we're going to pursue that. so, we are continuing to look at ways that we can extract information from him. as far as a broader plot that's one of the things that the intelligence community is working to see if we can uncover. was he a singleton. we're doing everything possible to identify somebody. >> what does your intelligence

dirty bomb conspirator jose padilla was hispanic-american. university of texas study found that profiling high-risk categories is no better than random screening because the screeners in effect become blind to anyone that doesn't fit the profile. imagine if they're profiling only middle eastern men. would they even spot one of al qaeda's most wanted, american adam guden? and he says profiling is also ineffective because terrorists learn how to beat it, by picking people who don't fit the profile, people like a nigerian with a u.s. visa perhaps, leaving from amsterdam. now let's look at some glaring issues with the tsa, which has been operating for months without a director in place. the administration has nominated former fbi agent erroll southers for the post but south carolina senator jim demint has put a hold on that nomination. rick nelson is a former navy helicopter pilot with over 20 years of intelligence experience. rick, you say underestimating the importance of leadership in an agency like the tsa is a huge mistake. >> oh, absolutely

barbara padilla. [applause] ms. mary griffith. [applause] mr. warner dixon.of people behind me, the wonderful inauguration orchestra. and [applause] this group of people is from the houston symphony and the houston grand opera orchestra, and with them as the earnest walker band. our conductor, the conductor from the white university shepard school of music. [applause] and our inauguration acquirer, the unbelievable voices of the bayou city abundant life cathedral and seventh day adventists. [applause] last, but certainly not least, a lot of people who worked very hard to put these activities and festivities together. there are too many of them to name. if you look in your program please know that the mayor and our elected officials are grateful that you shared your talents with us. finally, our elected officials actually have to get to work. you need to go to city hall for your first meeting of the year. will all of our elected officials make your way off the stage to the shuttle that will take you to your first meeting. ladies and gentlemen, give them a roun

white house just yesterday complaints about the cadillac tax because to cut your individual is 8,000 padilla, 24,000 there would be additional taxes on those health care plans. it's something like 40% of union members therefore subject to higher taxes because they get some of those plans as benefits oftentimes in lieu of pay hikes so in absolute terms i think there will be a cost, and don't forget that despite the kind of scoring we've seen from cbo being deficit neutral it is likely it is to cost something for the american people so it may cost us in terms of increased deficits, inflation and all that. it's going to be a price to be paid but i think there's also been a bit in terms of who we are as an american people. did you say to yourself is it important to you that everyone have some basic level of health coverage and our society, are you willing as an individual to pay for that? that is a very political question. i as an individual to say yes it's important to me as a moral stand, as a part of my american values. it's important to me to think i am not walking past some of the street wh

to previous decisions that have been made with richard reid, with zachariah moussaoui, with jose padillabi investigators believe they got useful information from this terrorist. i don't see despite what you hear otherwise, i don't see -- i honestly don't see the point that is being made when you look at past decisions that were made by other administrations. >> you said that the fbi got actionable intelligence. >> and you know i'm not going to -- >> well, can you at least say -- without saying what it is, can you say so have there been plans implemented since you have this intelligence? >> i think it would be a bad precedence for me to begin to discuss that intelligence from here. >>w3bb and finally, on the meet today, is the president going to be issuing to the intelligence folks in particular -- i mean, i understand this is sort of two parts of the security -- homeland security aspect and the intelligence gathering aspect. is he going to, after receiving these reviews, at least to all of them -- but how is he going to make sure the review process continues, i guess? i mean, is he setti