you got abu zubada to finger the 9/11 mastermind, and you unearthed jose padilla's plan to use a dirty bomb. can i assume all of that is waterboarding? because that enhanced interrogation is what got us the tips we needed to fight al qaeda. >> actually, none of this, as you mentioned, is because of interrogation techniques or waterboarding. for example, abu zubadia, the first question, i asked him his name. he gave me a wrong alias, so i looked at him in the face, and i said, "what i if i call you hani?" that was the name his mother nicknamed him as a child. he had that look, oh, my gosh, he got me. he started talking and gave actionable intelligence in the first hour of our interrogation. >> stephen: but it wasn't enough because they eventually brought in an outside contractor who water boarded him 83 times. >> exactly. >> stephen: so if you were getting good information, they wouldn't have given him the free swimming lessons. >> right. right. the 83 waterboarding sessions is just a perfect example how these techniques don't work because... >> stephen: what do you mean? >> if it worke

. >> from davis family resources center, agnes hernandes and rose padilla johnson. thank you for being here today. rose, tell me about your group. >> we are a family resource center that provides food and clothing and medical attention and child care and counseling and housing assistance. pretty much the services that struggling families that can't make ends meet. food is most important component. they have to choose between paying their rent or putting gas in their car and putting food on the table. food is probably the highest issue, most important issue. >> so people just sign up for it or need to show up? >> people are referred or they call 211 or might be in the social system worker. churches, schools. children are hungry are go to school hungry and parents are will share information with them and they refer families to us. davis street has been around for 40 years. for the last 20 years i've been there. it's also by word of mouth.gnesf and couple of kids? >> two kids at home. >> big responsibility. it's hard and every single day to bring in food, clothing and

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