that the driver for the economic problems in the state of illinois is the retired teacher down in paducha, who might be 70 years old, and gets a pension of less than $40,000 a year, and a cost of living adjustment, which is what their bill took away that it's somehow going to solve the problems of the state. and it's ridiculous. >> hang on, and pause there for a second, fred. and i want to get the representative in here. you were the first to agree that the problems with illinois, they have had a funding problem for decades, but is it a reasonable representation on the part of illinois residents to expect at some point, over the last 10, 20, or 40 years that someone in the state legislature would have said, hey, guys, we have a problem here. and we need to hold up and fix this before it gets worse. how could this possibly have snowballed for decades? >> it has always been my goal to not fix the blame, but to fix the problem. and the facts are what they are right now, and i agree that the teachers and the state employees and the university employees faithfully paid in, and they didn't have