we didn't cause a scandal and i'm not willing to take the blame for this candle i knew all about paedophilia i used to run the school we knew all about in the 1980's it's the people who caused the scandal and unfortunately i have to keep saying this if you go to an all male cop you haven't got any other influence there and that's why diane or myself are talking to strongly about the they need to be inclusive of everybody in this church and the decision making we just can't go on like this i could say a lot more about the people of god in search of the we're all in this together but i am very concerned that some of the views in the west haven't moved enough and i can understand what john things and like you know diane i've been through all of that but have the experience of women in the frustration of having to watch or to watch and listen sometimes the sermons were from people who were really really priests were behind the years they've got nothing much to offer so we've really got to look at this why is the church so frightened of women there isn't a doctrine on it you know that really is a