pastorur earlier guest doug pagitt is leading vote common good, trying to bring out democrats. he raised the issue of immigration, detaining families at the border. how important is an issue for evangelicals? guest: it is an issue with evangelicals. it is a tough issue. i have met with the president about it. i have met with the attorney general to discuss this issue back when families were being detained. i said would have to figure out a better way to do this. we have, but it is still a problem. our borders are a problem. congress needs to take the lead. i have been at this post for 15 years. this can has been kicked down the road each time. it is a tough political issue, but it is an issue we must address. host: let's get to the calls. we have vincent in oklahoma. go ahead. caller: good morning, tony, how are you doing? guest: i am doing great. how are you doing? for sin. am voting host: we say hello to stephen in connecticut. caller: hello. thank you for taking my phone call. i don't know if i agree with everything with tony. i agree with a lot of christian tenets, taking c