and that is whether both the plaza and pagoda are landmarked or only the pagoda is landmarked. if somebody wanted to restore that fountain or build something in the plaza, would that person be required to get a building permit? >> tim frye. yes, rec park through dpw would have to issue a building permit and that triggers the c of a unless the ordinance says otherwise. >> commissioner johns: so this is another way of making sure everyone understands what would be the effect of landmarking both of these on the community when they are formalized to fix up the plaza in the way they would like to see it fixed up. >> commissioner hyland: i had a question. and i don't know if it's for ms. smith or the mayor's aide. why does there seem to be a change? i thought it was always understood that these two pieces were of one. i'm struggling with why the change now and in response to public comment, it seems to be a lot of fear about what can or cannot be done based on the fact of it being landmarked, which i don't see -- i don't find that to be a founded fear. and my opinion is that the curr

looking at the weather center i don't like shaking and shivering, a live look from the pagoda camera and that is the cold air coming in. the winds start to howl and patchy clouds overnight that sun is now below the hon. winds 15 miles per hour in philadelphia. and 12 in allentown and 21 if reading. where the pagoda cam is and 18 in lancaster and 10 in trenton and the winds continue to pick up ove the entire day tomorrow. that creates windchills that will be brutal here first thing the morning feeling lik e from 6:00, 7:000 9:00. and only holding into the teens as you goout the entire day tomorrow. despite sunshine. as we look at the present numbers here and how it feels. 36 in allentown and 32 in reading and 28 in lancaster and the l the top of the 4:00 hour in the poconos. 23 degrees. it's now d that is how fast itfalling. 30 many millville still not bad at the shore in the 40s. the front is to the south and east with showers in central south jersey and southern parts of delaware. a lot of clouds to the north and west and again they fall apart overnight tonight. as you wake up tomor

so cold the town cancel new year's eve far work at the reading pagoda. it is just too dangerous.eep f entire area. can you believe we're just be sog for it to be freezing much warmer? thanks for joining us at 11:00. i'm lucy noland people would bed about. but if you're just staying inside and trying to stay compd here. it's time for some cold weather team coverage start williams. >> hi there lucy. get ready for more snow. it will be moving in by day break tomorrow morning. the instead yeste and noon. we are talking about alations instantly because ofs and righte snow still off to our west. around the take look at the purple. those are those winter weather lancaster county, but none around the immediateadelphia ar. that's because not anticipating hefty amounts of snow but we'll go 7am already moving in from west to e dealint light snow accumulating reduced visibilit temperatures tomorrow stuck in the 20s. so on average we're about perhaps an inch around atlantic city. a little over an inch and a half phad a half once you move north and west. 28 degrees for temperature tomorrow. wi

so cold the town cancel new year's eve far work at the reading pagoda. it is just too dangerous.eep freeze is gripping our entire area. can you believe we're just wishing for it to be freezing outside because that would be so much warmer? thanks for joining us at 11:00. i'm lucy noland it's friday night. normally people would be out and about. but if you're just staying inside and trying to stay warm you got a lot of company around here. it's time for some cold weather team coverage starting with scott williams. >> hi there lucy. get ready for more cold and, yes, the snow. it will be moving in by day break tomorrow morning. the instead yesterday between about 7:00 a.m. and noon. we are talking about alations instantly because of the cold temperatures and right now the snow still off to our west. around the ohio river valley but take look at the purple. those are those winter weather advisories we have one for lancaster county, but none around the immediate philadelphia area. that's because not anticipating hefty amounts of snow but we'll go hour by hour by 7am already moving in f

so cold the town cancel new year's eve far work at the reading pagoda. it is just too dangerous.ve we're just be sog for it to be freezing much warmer? thanks for joining us at 11:00. i'm lucy noland people would bed about. but if you're just staying inside and trying to stay compd here. it's time for some cold weather team coverage start williams. >> hi there lucy. get ready for more snow. it will be moving in by day break tomorrow morning. the instead yeste and noon. we are talking about alations

the second designation that the commission considered was for the peace pagoda plaza in japan town. this item has been continued a number of times due to concerns over the japan town community's rehabilitation of the plaza at a future date. the japan town task force was present and didn't ask the commission to postpone their vote on including the plaza in the designation, although everybody agreed that the plaza should be ultimately included in a final landmark designation. after some q&a between the commission and the japan town task force, the historic preservation commission ultimately decided to keep the plaza as part of the landmark designation and to move it to the full board for consideration. and, again, that will be heard in the new year and supervisor breed's staff was in attendance and is committed to having some sort of discussion between the historic preservation commission, japan town task force and the rest of the community on next steps forward. so, that concludes my comments unless you have any questions. >> thank you, mr. frye. >> seeing no other reports, we can mo