that i would encourage your audience your the washington post police shooting database and they come pahl the state of source you can go back and look and since 2015 if you want to look talk simply about the unarmed individual shot by law enforcement if you break it down between african-american and white it's 3 percent unarmed white satin arm 2 percent and on what unarmed black so they're very even numbers and you know it's race isn't a factor generally those numbers should be even there's a real senior here in the states to actually talk about. and what i've been trying to say is we've got to be able to we've got to be able to we can at least talk about those facts it's really hard to move forward a problem solve a piece of power and use of excessive force by police in the us who goes right back to the civil rights movement has been going on forever you know 50 years. can you understand why the recalls even look a public movement to defund the police forces do you think that that is the right direction to go in given that the problems have been around for so long isn't it time to try so