like pakistan or iran. how should countries - like pakistan or iran. | like pakistan or iran. how. should countries manage the taliban, do you think? because frankly, without their coalescence on humanitarian aid in corridors and assistance it is not going to happen, is it? so they're going to want something in return which is a degree of appreciation and recognition, i guess. that is auoin recognition, i guess. that is going to _ recognition, i guess. that is going to be _ recognition, i guess. that is going to be no _ recognition, i guess. that is going to be up for _ going to be up for negotiations. fortunately we have to work with this very disagreeable and awful government. these are terrible people who are... i don't think, terribly of and i think it is terrible what has happened in afghanistan. but i think we don't want people to starve to death. we don't want new variants of covid to emerge out of afghanistan because of lack of vaccination and these are things we should all be able to agree on. under the extent we can protect these gains with gi

small numbers of people are crossing into pakistan and into iran.y generous in hosting afghan refugees, 90% of afghan refugees for the last a0 years have been in those two countries so we urge those two countries to keep their borders open to any new influx of afghan refugees. we are working with international partners to create an stockpile emergency aid but again we do need the support of the international community to be able to meet the needs in pakistan, iran and in afghanistan. just to get a grip on the numbers, when you say there are 3.5 million afghan people on the move within their own country, previously the unhcr had said it was expected around 0.5 million would try to flee. those people on the move in the country, where do they want to go? to be clear on the numbers, at the start of this year there were 3 million people who had been forced from their homes due to the conflict and insecurity in afghanistan. more than 0.5 million additional people have fled this year. not all of those people will try to cross into neighbouring countries. i

i think the countries in the region, like pakistan, iran, russia, china, became very comfortable with the taliban slowly gaining territory, but the united states just spending tons of resources to try to keep the afghan government intact. and then basically getting to have their cake and eat it, too. they were supporting both their afghan government and the taliban at the same time, and we were paying the price. the party has ended, and now these regional countries are going to be faced with a taliban-let afghanistan, and al qaeda are certainly not fond of china and iran and russia, either. i think despite our differences with these regional countries, there is room for limited cooperation and intelligence sharing to address the most serious threats, like al qaeda, like isis-k. host: let's hear from nick in delray beach, florida, republican line. caller: good morning. two quick points. the first is anyone who thinks this ashraf ghani guy will be brought to justice in any manner can forget about it. this guy is so in bed with the old obama administration and now the biden administratio

without government, though, especially from countries that it's been close to — china, russia, pakistan, iran qatar. —— without an inclusive government. when you talk about international recognition, in the cabinet line—up, though, you've got sarajuddin haqqani, head of a militant group known as the haqqani network, wanted by the us state department. he's now the interior minister. hwo do other governments navigate the issue of working with the taliban in this way? i think this puts the us, certainly, in a very difficult position. i don't see the us engaging with a taliban government in which sarajuddin haqqani is a part of that government, so i think that certainly puts the us in a difficult position. i do think that there are certain governments, right? so the taliban may be able to get... i think it's more regional recognition rather than international recognition. it may be more thinking about these countries that i mentioned rather than western recognition. so i don't think it's the entire international community engaging with this government, i think it's going to be a part of the inter

the, all the peripheral countries around afghanistan, which would include russia, china, even pakistan, iran in india. so it's, this is quite a serious development and there's gotta be a way to deal with what, what we've seen here is that in the last 2 days of hearings, nobody took responsibility or accounted for accountability. there was no accountability by anyone. everyone was pointing and was to the state department to somebody else. and that's why you kept hearing repeatedly yesterday, especially during the senate hearings of senators, asking general milly and secretary austin to resign. why haven't you resigned yet? this is a, you know, you're, you're, you, are, you failed and they refuse to do so. so, but this is this, this also showed a way where they made recommendations of keeping some troops and but the president, in a interview with on with a b, c. a recently basically said he was never given such advice. well, the, there's the pros and the president has never been held accountable. he has since that episode, he has never been, he has not killed any news conferences in which he h

iran. i don't think so. and pakistan is one of those countries is a little bit trickier. when you look at the the government is spread away to the united states. but the northern portion of pakistan, especially soon which makes up the majority of the taliban. it was where the band safe haven was for over 20 years in northern pakistan. it was never truly addressed by the pakistani government. so i don't see them actually do any thing. that's why i was able to make it all the way to india before it was actually busted. well, it will be interesting to see where this, because i do believe there are countries that are very much worried about as, as i've mentioned, russia called together all the countries alignment to make sure that terrorism doesn't come from can attend, that you don't have the drug trade continued, i don't think this is a surprise. i think everybody predicted this to be the question is, is, will the united states ultimately be held responsible in the global scale saying, guess what, you created this problem. and will this be a way that the us says well, maybe

refugee camps mushroomed along the borders inside pakistan and iran. the camps became a recruiting ground for the mujahideen — the holy warriors. in february 1980, president carter's security adviser zbigniew brzezinski visited the refugee camps along the afg han—pakistan border. that land over there is yours. you'll go back to it one day, because yourfight will prevail, and you'll have your homes, your mosques back again, because your cause is right and god is on your side. as more and more afghans poured over the border into pakistan, a lot of them did not want to stay in pakistan as refugees, they wanted to go back and fight, but they wanted weapons to go and do it with, and other kinds of assistance. that was an opportunity that president carter took advantage of. the americans knew the local arms industry could never supply the demand for weapons, and with the saudis matching the american contribution dollar for dollar, the mujahideen started to get better equipment. we begin to procure weapons, import them and get them to pakistan, where the pakis

especially -- they don't need more allies especially with another dominant version. -- iran does need more allies. pakistan is more closer to the taliban than iran, so iran cannot isolate itself in the current situation. it makes a lot of sense for iran to have a close relationship with them. [indiscernible] we will have to wait and see. especially with all the investment they are making, and many other elements. yes, you are on mute. >> thank you so much. that was very comprehensive, and i'm sure there's a great deal to discuss, and mustafa will take us in that direction. >> thank you very much for having me on this timely discussion. as you know, with the drawl -- with the withdrawal of these trips from afghanistan after 20 years of war, and this has raised many questions and concerns both inside and outside afghanistan. many ask what will happen next and what the future will hold for them. at the regional level, as the doctor mentioned, many stakeholders including iran, , they have their own stakes and interests. they were repeatedly calling for a responsible use withdrawal from afghanistan. on interpre

withdrawal is being filled by the group that once gave al-qaeda a safe home as countries like china, pakistan, iransuch a big role. >> yeah. >> that is what happens when you leave a position that we have there in afghanistan. >> before the fall of kabul, the taliban leaders made their way to beijing in late july where they were welcomed with open arms by china's top leaders. china's goal? preventing terrorism from spreading to china's muslim population across its western border. secure copper mining rights in afghanistan, and expand its belton road strategy giving access to a navy base in pakistan west of karachi owned and operated by a chinese firm. beijing announced it will provide afghanistan over $30 million in food and aid. president biden was asked whether he is worri about china's new friendship with the taliban. >> china has a real problem with the taliban. they are all trying to figure out what do they do now. >> i think you will see china make a move for bagram air force base. >> asked about china taking over bagram air force base the spokesman replied, quote: i can tell you this is purel

would soon cease to be a super power and surprised me by suggesting an alliance of afghanistan, pakistan, irane united states and india. what do you think about that, general? >> well, there's a lot of conventional group think about what happened with bin laden and what his thoughts were, et cetera. i disagree with some of the basic premises. certainly the united states remains a super power. when you -- are we challenged as a result of the debacle going forward? indisputable we are. when you look around the world, nato and the countries in europe depend on the united states to stand up against russian aggression. the middle east, our allies in the middle east, israel and our arab states very much the same. stand up against the aggression of iran. the same thing in the western pacific, the south china sea with our allies out there. those allies depend on the united states. we have got to shore up with all of these allies our resolve and our commitment and make them certainly understand that while we had our challenges in afghanistan, we have the determination and resolve to deal with the issue

they have been to moscow, to china, they have been to iran, pakistan of course. and they have been negotiating with the trump administration, following into the biden administration. so i think the taliban, their interactions have been over several years. what is the structure, they are now trying to come up with a government. i think everybody is looking at them to see what that government will look like, will it be inclusive? how will that then reflect the laws and regulations and kind of governance. i think the international community is looking at that. i think the international community is also trying to figure out what is their interest. russia obviously is worried about the islamic state which also includes the islamic movement of uzbekistan, the group in central asia, the chinese worried about the turkestan movement. everybody has interest. everyone will be looking at what their interest is and how to manipulate the situation for their interests. from the taliban's perspective, i think at this point what you see is in doak, the british foreign secretary

we know that al qaeda leaders would taken refuge in pakistan and iran have returned to afghanistan. we know that there is a billion dollars in weapons in afghanistan -- $80 billion that will flow to al qaeda. this argument that the taliban and isis-k do not get along, i am not sure that i buy that. the taliban released thousands of isis-k prisoners. my guess is that whatever hostility there is between these groups, it will not last long. we know that these weapons, some of them are being sent to iran. other weapons will be shipped and sold to china and russia. these weapons will be used to stage future terrorist attacks. debra, based on what happened in afghanistan, is it september 10 again for america? debra: absolutely. i cannot tell you how it grieves me to go to this memorial on saturday knowing that we are in much more danger today then we were the night before september 11 happened. because we have given up so much, including territory. we do not have an american presence on the ground. afghanistan is a very big country. we have lost -- president biden keeps talking about over

it will join forces with other regional players. namely, china, central asian states may be pakistan and iran, and that would allow to do it better than the us lead opposition did. interestingly, russia, unlike china, which he talked about, there hasn't formerly recognised taliban yet. i understand, i say work to form a government. but the russians know afghan is done better than anyone else, perhaps because of their involvement in the country. you mentioned the concerns that moscow has. what is their biggest worry right now the biggest one when it comes up? well, i think that the biggest, very is that tell about the will tolerate all kinds of sales, or maybe even the ice is sales on its territory. and the sales will conduct a terrorist actions. russia or will try to easel, tate gosh, neighbors in central asia. i think this is something that they are concerned more than about anything else and that's why they now have quite sizable. busy military exercises together with us bank has done and tragic is done to defend the southern borders of dodging cust on against possible infiltration or even

heard, there are millions, 2 and a half 1000000 approximately refugees, primarily hosted by pakistan and iran. those countries have for a long time, been hosts to afghanistan. as you know, the country has been in a situation of war insecurity and conflict for, for decades or so. and those countries have been generous hosts. they have large populations. now, in the event that more africans are compelled to try and find protection in those countries. so it's across the board, as of course we would call on those countries to keep them is open and to allow for the protection of more african refugees if needed. of course, there is contingency planning going on right now from ourselves with those countries and with other partners. so far the movements have been relatively limited towards the border that has been an increase in movement. more people have been moving, but so far it's not on a mass scale, but of course we need to plan for that possibility if, if it comes to pass. well that means you and hcr talking to the taliban regional players because really you can just pay off other countries to

obviously pakistan, india, iran, china is extremely interested. they already have some of the most, the best mineral rights in the country and also russia. so my biggest fear. ready is that, you know, there continues to be fighting within the country and some of the fighters are supported by a regional interlopers that could cause for outbreak of a major civil war. and that's something we shall be worried about. okay. aside from that one on the other, pressing challenges facing this, this new cup, but right now, well, they don't have any money to be able to run the country. i mean, at least 50 percent of the people are living well below the property line and gaiety. and his psych offense, you know, took hundreds of millions of dollars when they left the country. at least they're accused of we seem to have lost thomas johnson there in california. we'll let, we'll move on many. thanks, dave. i think that china and mexico is supreme courses, decriminalized abortion rules unanimously. the penalizing terminations is unconstitutional. that means the cou

it's transformed into heroin either, and i've gotta stand pakistan or iran, and then smuggled into europe, africa, and canada of gant san producers, more than 90 percent of the world's heroine. but you and estimates it's worth $2000000000.00 a year and accounts for up to 11 percent of the countries g. d. p. when i speak to vander felt bad brown about this. she is joining us live from washington d. c. and he's a senior fellow and the director of the initiative on non state actors at the brookings institution. thank you very much for being with us taliban leaders after taking power. and i guess, you know, seeking international acceptance have said they want to ban opm production. but can they really afford to kill what's essentially been their cash cow? well, it will be extraordinarily difficult for the tele bond to deliver on its promise, banning your puppy cultivation and keeping that bang for any extended period. it is not only that, it has been a very significant source of income for the tele bond, as you mentioned, but it's been also vital part of the economy of simplification. but non

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on the other hand, pakistan is more closer to the taliban than iran, so iran itself in the -- cannot isolate itself in the current scintillation -- situation. it makes a lot of sense for iran to have a close relationship with them. we will have to wait and see. especially with all the investments we are making. you're a new. -- on mute. dr. weinbaum: thank you so much. it was very comprehensive, and i'm sure there's a great deal to discuss, and mustafa will take -- so far will take us in the direction. you in that direction. ms. sakhi: >> thank you very much for having me on this timely discussion. as you know, the withdrawal of all u.s. troops from afghanistan after almost 20 years of war and the war -- in the war shattered country has raised questions and concerns both inside and outside afghanistan. many ask what will happen next and what the future will hold for them. at the regional level, many stakeholders including iran, they have their own it interest. they were repeatedly calling for responsible withdrawal from afghanistan. one interpretation of the phrase responsible withdr

and in afghanistan. just to meet the needs in pakistan, iran and in afghanistan.— and in afghanistaners, at _ whether they want to go? to be clear on the numbers, at the _ whether they want to go? to be clear on the numbers, at the start - whether they want to go? to be clear on the numbers, at the start of - whether they want to go? to be clear on the numbers, at the start of this l on the numbers, at the start of this year there were 3 million people who had been forced from their homes to the conflict and insecurity in afghanistan. more than 0.5 million additional people have fled this year. not all of those people will try to cross into neighbouring countries. it is important to be able to support people where they feel safe and return home if it is safe to do so. but as i say, the displacement is primarily within afghanistan. displacement is primarily within afghanistan-— displacement is primarily within afghanistan. pakistan has said it does not have _ afghanistan. pakistan has said it does not have the _ afghanistan. pakistan has said it does not have the capacity - afghanista

we have countries like pakistan has 1.4 million afghan refugees. iran, 780,000 refugees.even germany, 180,000. the united states, which started the war, prosecuted the work, maintain the occupation, so far has only taken 20,000. so this refugee problem is not a new one, it is now only now being focused on by the press. >> not only being just cused on by the press, just being focused on by the government, i a whole host of forces across this country. you are right, this is enormous levels of hypocrisy. it is hard to measure how far it goes. certainly on the question of refugees that suddenly now the refugees that are coming out refugees who are -- the peopl who did in many ways benefit, womein particular, kabul kabul they lived in. th benefited in certain ways in a temporary since from access to education, health care and jobs that were not available. that is real andhe u.s. id make promises that you should have kept the way this withdrawal was carried out was not best disorganized committee was badly planned. it was terribly done, in my view. but that does not go to the q

liz: what is the way out pakistan or iran. we are sorry, we are coming up against the timer.appreciate your insight heartbreak. we will have you back on, it was a spirited discussion. gold star families rebuking epresident biden after the children were killed in afghanistan by a terrorist bombing during the withdrawal. commander-in-chief talking more about their daughter killed in the line of duty. next, afghan war veteran on the follow-up the president is now facing. that's next. to run a growing business, is to be on a journey. and along the ride, you'll find many challenges. your dell technologies advisor is here to help. so you can stop at nothing for your customers. (vo) this is a place for ambition. your dell technologies advisor a forge of progress. a unicorn in training. a corner to build a legacy. a vision for tomorrow. a fresh start. a blank canvas. a second act. a renewed company culture. a temple for ideas. and a place to make your mark. loopnet. the most popular place to find a space. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ monitor, check and lock down you money with security from chase. co

iran has about 2 million afghan refugees from u.s. war there. that they are supporting. they are in pakistan, , in iran come in the neighboring countries. so we, the people of the united states allow ourselves not to be aware of any of these sort of ugly things that we might be able to do something about it we put our minds to it. i think there's never really been in antiwar movement in the united states. some things claimed to be antiwar. there was an anti-vietnam war. a war, but it was very clear afterwards that that didn't mean don't do covert invasions of central america or what they were doing in afghanistan in the 1980s. it didn't just start. immigration and asylum seeking, almost by the one who come to the united states, economic. i don't think it is really oh, because it's such a great place, you know. it is a place where you can be free to sleep under a bridge. >> right. >> that you can be free of political persecution unless you are politically inclined. if you stay apolitical and stay out of things. but i thought, you know, i thought i would mention for people who don't know that

iran. pakistan, of course. i mean, it is not -- they have been negotiate -- negotiating during the trump administration and then the biden administration. i think the taliban -- their interaction has been over several years. they are now trying to come up with the government. i think everybody is looking at them to try to see what that government will look like, how that will reflect the laws and regulations and the time of governance and i think the international community is looking at that. i think the international community is also trying to figure out what is their interest. russia is worried about the islamic state which includes uzbekistan. the chinese are worried about the charter stand movement. -- kzyrgystan. everybody will be looking to manipulate the situation for their interest. from the taliban's perspective, i think at this point what you see is indo hop -- in doha, the germans and british met with them. they reached out to the chinese. i think they are the government in afghanistan today or the

at all while the enemy they face is supported by their allies, pakistan, china, iran and others.ave seen to military leaders at home question there will, they have been abandoned. >> f the afghan security forces had the capacity, i mean the training, the size, they capability to defend their country. this comes down to willing leadership. and no, i did not nor did anyone elsea see a collapse of an army in that size in 11 days. >> lara: will and leadership. it is interesting, curious to see general milley knows what either of those things mean because not only did we abandon our allies, the u.s. is actively working with their enemy, which until a very short time ago was our enemy too. the taliban, if you accept what antony blinken said a few days ago is now her best friend. on the eve of the 20th anniversary of 9/11. think about that pure of the 20th anniversary of 9/11. is this how you want your leaders to speak about k terrorists who killed thousands of americans? >> our engagement with the taliban and with a government interim or long term will be for purposes of advancing the

while the enemy they face is supported by their allies, pakistan, china, iran, in others .le our senior military leaders at home question there will, they have been abandoned. >> the afghan security forces have the capacity and by that i mean they have the training, th size, the capability to defend their country. this comes down to an issue of will and leadership in no, i di not nor did anyone else see a collapse of an army that size i 11 days. >> will and leadership. interesting. curious to see if he actually knows what those mean because not only did we abandon our allies, the u.s. is actively working with their enemy, which until a very short time ago was our enemy too. the taliban, if you consider what secretary of state anthony blinken said, is now our best friend on the eve of the 20th anniversary of 9/11, think abou that. the 20th anniversary of 9/11. is this how you want your leaders to speak about terrorists who killed thousands of americans? >> our engagement with the taliban and with a government interim or long-term, we'll be for purposes of advancing the natio

i refer here to china, but also iran, pakistan, countries whose foreign ministers were also meeting todayinterestingly enough, in a virtual session, to discuss how to deal with the television. i think we will see fewer questions asked there. it must be said that china said they will be watching to see what this new taliban government does. those words are not too far away from what we heard today from u.s. foreign minister blinken. but we will see, in fact how that other group acts in the future. clare: it is interesting from china side. this visit to germany by antony blinken, we heard things about diplomatic unity, warm words and transatlantic relations. was this a way of saying thank you for germany's role in supporting the u.s. in afghanistan? melinda: it was that, but it was also in exercising damage control because the fact is the unilateral u.s. withdrawal has terribly disappointed many people, not only in germany, but also in europe amongst the closest nato allies, who were surprised and distressed that they were not consulted. we have seen the fallout of that and the fact that ma

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