someone who is clearly working for some part of pakistani intel, can we kill them all right? you can see them having that kind of granular level struggle. the book is coming out which i'm going to review. i think it's for the good. i have not read the whole thing yet, but it strikes me as pretty important. in pakistan, you have wheels within wheels, whereas part of the intelligence service helps the u.s. against jihad is an part of it has not, and the part that has not is not fully understood, and that is what we are trying to figure out -- what is the level of their collusion with al qaeda specifically. you can show they are colluding directly with groups that ally with al qaeda, but the question is about their direct relationship. that is what we are trying to figure out. of the things we have seen in pakistan is pakistani leaders have targeted al qaeda .eaders if it was intentional or accidental, i cannot tell you. .here is certainly attention that was a problem. that was contentious with the pakistani state and establishment in general, but at the same time, this is the g

someody who is working for part of pakistani intel or a part of the pakistani establishment against us. what do we do with him? you can see that sort of granular level struggle within pakistan on this. a quick point. steve cole has a book coming out, part of the intelligence and i think it is pretty good. have not read the whole thing yet, but it is hitting on the key issue. part of the intelligence service, assisted and help the u.s. against jihadi's, part of it is not. the part that is not is not fully understood. that is what we are trying to figure out. what is the level of their collusion with al qaeda specifically? you can show they are colluding directly with groups that collude with al qaeda, the question is what about the direct relationship? that is what we're trying to figure out. we havef the things seen in pakistan is the military has targeted al qaeda leaders. whether it was intentional in waziristan, i cannot tell you. they permitted the u.s. to launch drone strikes. there is certainly tension there . al qaeda has supported the movement of taliban in pakistan. there was

somebody clearly working for some part of pakistani intel or part of the pakistani establishment against us, do we kill them outright? what do we have to do with them? you can see that granular level of struggle. steve cole has a book coming out on director s part of the intelligence service of isi, i will review. i think it's pretty good. i haven't read the whole thing yet and strikes me as pretty important. in pakistan you have wheels within wheels. in the intelligence service that assisted and helped the u.s. against jihadis and part has not. the part that has not is still not fully understood. that's what we're trying to figure out parts of the pakistani establishment, what is their level of collusion with al qaeda specifically. you can tell they're colluding with groups that collude with al qaeda or aligned with al qaeda and the question is what about the direct relationship we're trying to figure out. >> one of the things we have seen about pakistan, they have targeted al qaeda leaders, whether it was intentional or accidental i can't tell you. we know they have permitted u.s. stri