which is called the pakistani talibans. [inaudible] >> i think they are the same but we call them the afghan talibans because the afghan leadership which is a more umbrella group of all the groups along the border, mostly pakistani computer born and raised in the pakistan side of the line. [inaudible] >> no. the pakistani talibans are pashtun so there along the border. but what's interesting is i think they have allegiance and they have very similar stories. most of the pakistani talibans actually cut their teeth. they learn from the afghan-pakistaafghantaliban. they swear allegiance to the pakistan taliban but at the close people i would just say they are all the same. they certainly talk the same. when you need them, they say we have the same names. we might do different operations but we believe in the same thing, which is a very radical islamist -- they swear allegiance to mullah omar and have this weird relationship with the pakistani intelligence which is they are all actually -- which the word? they are children of t

i don't need regional debt for pakistan because i was born pakistani. 85% of pakistanis according to today's demographic are born after partition. vitamin a to actually have a mythical view? like you accept that we actually have a country and i try to run the country in the best manner possible and have policy debates rather than ideological debates that always end up benefiting the islamist? whether they have the numbers in parliament or not, continue to hold a kind of veto and have sway in pakistan, totally disproportionate to their numbers. i am going to stop here. i'm sure there'll be a lot to discuss what we all join shuja nawaz on the panel. [applause] >> thank you, ambassador husain haqqani and thank you haroon ullah. i was ideas and history and i am going to begin by asking if the underlying assumption behind any discussion of the rise of political islamists that somehow this is a bad thing. is it a bad thing? do you see a political change occurring in pakistan, where you will see an assignment political culture and what implications would it have for pakistan in the region?

the isi and the taliban are the rock and the hardplace of pakistani. doll too much digging on either organization and you can get squeezed. our starting point this week is karachi. >> in a country where almost 70 people were killed in suicide bombings last year, another 199 were killed in drone strikes and there were 14,000 cases of murder, an attack on a single journalist who happened to survive might seem less than newsworthy. however, the shooting of hamid mir seems tied into those suicide bombings and drone strikes because those are the kinds of stories on extremism and what the government was doing about it that he was reporting on. >> hamid mir is arguably the most popular journalist in pakistan right now and has been. you could say the king of television journalism for the last decade in the country. he has a show on television called "capital t.v." and has been labeled a taliban sympathizer and a cia agent both for the kind of positions he has taken >> in the last few years, he took an independent line, accused security agencies of harassing lo

they know that if they have a comeback it will have a blowback on the pakistani state. second, as we said, the afghan people have spoken, shown their support for the mock receipt. -- democracy. they don't want what the taliban has to offer. this will have to factor into pakistani planning for the future. >> great, thank you so much. question on the economy. feel free to jump in at any moment. the question is -- what are the prospects for sustained economic growth? we have turned a corner with the election. or at least we are at the beginning. we talked about the unsustainability of the state and the nsf and the need for continued funding. what are the prospects for the afghan economy to become more self-sufficient? thank you. >> it is a good question, actually. there has been so much focus on the past year or two on the security and political transitions that we are in the midst of. not enough attention has been paid to the economic transition that afghanistan is to undergo. i was in kabul a few weeks ago. you could clearly feel that people were anxious. that businesses

in other words, to simplify the pakistanis still fundamentally complete good. on good days they might want to get along with afghanistan, maybe even india and all grow economically together. on bad days they want to dominate them are suspect that things going on. they just can't reconcile which of these two is the more persuasive. >> i think a fine representatives of both of those ideas and pakistan. the process -- i'll stick with process right now. the process here i am more concerned about is not that they are competing visions, rather that there is a habit of thinking tactically and i think it's true the civilian center of the military. that is to say something is good for the punjab based or pashtun upsetting the ample quarter or third business and transit has to be balanced within pakistan, that will be what makes decisions about afghanistan. so for the military, there will be the question of yes, let's say we are past strategic depth of a concept, but we are still concerned what is going on in world order if this particular warlord for people is in power

retired pakistani officials. conspiracy theories abound in pakistan since 911 the most common is that bin laden was being sheltered by the isi. what's the case you have for that. >> exactly that. that everyone talks about it. everyone believes that. he's 30, he's just a few hundred yards from the top military academy. i mean i went to the house and you can see the walls of the military academy just there. so i go through it in the book. there are so many things but you have to build up the case slowly. there's so many things that point to it that every time the head of the army would come to the military academy for the graduation parade over year that whole town gets checked for security reasons because they do have their own taliban problems. so every street somebody would come and check all the houses. >> rose: except? >> right. so then you say well okay well how come they didn't check the house. in fact are they allowed to step inside the house or do they just knock on the door. then you find out on every str

. >> the pakistani military run things and intelligence services are part of the military. since independence, they have had more time under a military government than under a civilian. they have had these military dictatorships and the military just believes that this is the way to go. they have success against the russians and they swore off the soviet union. they just continued and they figured it was the way to do it. they then continued and they had their own proxy to go into kashmir. and now this is the only thing i think they know. they are in ensuring a state in afghanistan and they will continue doing it until someone stops them. >> could the united states have stopped them? >> they could have done a lot more to help stop them. to bolster the civilians and to tell the people the truth, you have to tell the pakistani people what's going on because most do not know what they are doing. >> most of the front page was white. they did not want to print it. the pressure on journalists in the editors in pakistan is very strong to not cross certain lines. you don't talk abo

the pakistanis have been reaching out to people. itre have been signals, that does not have to be either/or, completely hostile relationship. again, they have to be their unmanned and they will have a difficult set of constraints to manage and decisions to make over which powerbrokers they bring in and which powerbrokers they leave out. and the powerbrokers they will leave out will be heavily quoted by their neighbors. it will be a very complex management, but what they do internally will -- or hamper the regional engagements as well. >> very sober, your assessment. ambassador,, mr. what implications you see in the election. >> if we are sober. the good news is that i do not think there is a master plan despite what you might hear from your contacts in intelligence. there's not a master pakistani plan to restart the civil wars and send in the proxies to try to take over the country no matter what happens in the power vacuum that will develop after 2014. this notion of a pakistan that has this kind of vision, the good news is they do

. >> do you think the pakistani government knows where al zawahiri, the head of it, is?>> the pakistani military is sustained by american military aid. >> we should never use the word "allil "ally" or "partner" when it comes to pakistan. we're not. we're operating across purposes. the reason we've had so much trouble in afghanistan is because of more than a decade of pakistani policy. they are going to use the taliban as an instrument. i think you can expect the taliban to gain significant ground in the south of pakistan where they had the connection there. the north will not be under their control. the real battle will ultimately be for kabul, whether you have a functioning central area. pakistan will continue to be an enormous problem and we're limited simply by the fact that we can't do too much against them because we don't want pakistan to fail. it's got the largest -- the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world. it's home to all of these terrorists. in a funny sort of way, as bad as they are, we're immobilized by our fear that things could actually get worse.

ambassador to pakistanis, he said he did not believe that the isi knew and the u.s. didn't end up independently figuring that the isi knew. >> yes, i've had a lot of talks with cameron, the ambassador. i don't agree with him. i think he - he's interested in preserving the relationship with pakistan, so he's been cautious on what he thinks they knew. he says we didn't trust them, pakistan, to tell them about the raid. we kept it silent. i think that, to me chose -- shows there was a lot they knew that they didn't tell you. >> you write that pakistan were undermining our afrts, not that they were hiding osama bin laden but they were undermining the efforts. that the isa was maintaining and protecting the taliban. you say the pakistani military and taliban proxy forces lie in wait, as much of a threat, lying in wait for the u.s. to leave, which it may do if we don't come to agreement with the afghanistan government in the near future. if that's the case, why are we spending on average $2 billion in aid to pakistan as we have over the past 40 years. >> because very have

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that's clearly what needs to be looked at very strongly because the pakistanis have not finished theirhrough a proxy force to dominate affairs in afghanistan and they're going to continue. >> that of course, is the taliban for pakistan. >> the taliban. >> and actually al qaeda have shown they were protecting and hiding bin laden. al zawahiri who took over as head of al qaeda, he's in pakistan. i have a passage in the book which shows that certainly in 2005 they were hiding him, the pakistani government. >> they think the government knows where al zawahiri is? >> yes. >> the pakistani military is sustained by american military aid. >> we should never use the word ally or partner when it comes to pakistan. we're not. we're operating across purposes. the reason we've had so much trouble in afghanistan is because of more than a decade of pakistani policy. they are going to use the taliban as an instrument. i think you can expect the taliban to gain significant ground in the south of pakistan where they had the connection there. the north will not be under their control. the real battle wil

i mean he's sitting in logar province miles from the pakistani border. i take him at his word. i think he's probably telling the truth. most of those guys are locals from that area. >> i'm sure, i'm sure that there are indigenous afghan fighters who are fighting with the taliban. of course there are. and i'm also sure that they are getting significant external support. >> these are the facts: the pakistani military through the isi provides intelligence to the taliban on nato and us and ana operations. they provide even training for them and resources and logistics. >> the sound of the military jets returns, but the fighters don't seem too worried. >> they even stop to pick up fruit on the way. but i'm concerned about the nato planes circling above us. >> i just saw two fighter jets in the air, flying very low, possibly targeting us i'm scared as hell. >> but the planes didn't attack us >> it's not a major attack. it's a small group of taliban, it lasted for a couple of hours. for those types of attacks isaf planes don't normally engage. there are much larger attacks 200, 300 ta

pakistani relations. as distinguished career.notable previous assignments in iraq, serbia and another of other european countries. we are grateful to have him here today. finally, ambassador teresita --affer, foreign sermon former foreign service officer largely focused on south asia. ambassador to sri lanka and served in india, pakistan and bangladesh and knows a great deal about the entire subregion -- region. along with her husband broke one of my favorite policy book, how to negotiate with have to stand. that is not necessarily her most amos book. she wrote a stellar volume on u.s.-india relations in recent years. our format today is i will begin with broad format -- broad questions to each of them. all three know a great deal about all three countries. we will ask them to speak about one country. the ambassador for pakistan. ofn in the second round discussion appear we will go into the inner linkages, other issues and once we're done with that, we will go to you for the questions and be done at 3:00. without further ado, let

i mean he's sitting in logar province miles from the pakistani border. i take him at his word. i think he's probably telling the truth. most of those guys are locals from that area. >> i'm sure, i'm sure that there are indigenous afghan fighters who are fighting with the taliban. of course there are. and i'm also sure that they are getting significant external support. >> these are the facts: the pakistani military through the isi provides intelligence to the taliban on nato and us and ana operations. they provide even training for them and resources and logistics. >> the sound of the military jets returns, but the fighters don't seem too worried. >> they even stop to pick up fruit on the way. but i'm concerned about the nato planes circling above us. >> i just saw two fighter jets in the air, flying very low, possibly targeting us i'm scared as hell. >> but the planes didn't attack us >> it's not a major attack. it's a small group of taliban, it lasted for a couple of hours. for those types of attacks isaf planes don't normally engage. there are much larger attacks 200, 300 ta

pakistani relations, relationship has a long history of misconceptions and dysfunction on both sides. in the most recent public opinion polls in pakistan, roughly 2/3 of pakistani consider the united states an enemy. this is a potential strategic problem in the context of what was once considered the war on terror, now aptly renamed the war against al qaeda. we have said for a long time there's no connecticut solution to the challenge of violent, political extremism. former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld appropriately questioned a so-called snowflake in 2003, whether the u.s. strategy was creating more extremists that it was eliminating. that remains a fundamental question. not attended to set off a bomb in new york was motivated by drone operations in pakistan. they have been instrumental in reducing the threat posed by core al qaeda. along with the death of osama bin laden, of course. to be clear, the threat has not disappeared, but represents a danger that can be effectively managed at a reduced level of effort. but what we continue to do in pakistan comes at a very high cost

i mean he's sitting in logar province miles from the pakistani border. i take him at his word. i think he's probably telling the truth. most of those guys are locals from that area. >> i'm sure, i'm sure that there are indigenous afghan fighters who are fighting with the taliban. of course there are. and i'm also sure that they are getting significant external support. >> these are the facts: the pakistani military through the isi provides intelligence to the taliban on nato and us and ana operations. they provide even training for them and resources and logistics. >> the sound of the military jets returns, but the fighters don't seem too worried. >> they even stop to pick up fruit on the way. but i'm concerned about the nato planes circling above us. >> i just saw two fighter jets in the air, flying very low, possibly targeting us i'm scared as hell. >> but the planes didn't attack us >> it's not a major attack. it's a small group of taliban, it lasted for a couple of hours. for those types of attacks isaf planes don't normally engage. there are much larger attacks 200, 300 ta

. >> they began to consolidate their position thanks to bags of money from the pakistanis. >> reporter986 the taliban controlled the area. >> one has to take into account the fact that the taliban have had sang tu wares inside pakistan. they have been able to engage in training and recruitment. >> reporter: also in '96 bin laden moved his base to afghanistan. the u.s. launched missiles at bin laden's bases in afghanistan. >> reporter: that's when omar did a reconsideration, and thought that if the americans want to kill him that badly, there must be something worse protecting this guy. >> reporter: consolidating their power, the taliban enforced their strict interpretation of islamic law. music was banned. the renowned budas were destroyed. women were told to cover themselves completely. there were mass arrests and executions. after the 9-11 attacks the u.s. and its allies retaliated. two months later, anti-taliban forces fought back. >> if you look back at the estimates about the strength of the taliban in the early 2000s, they are very low. they may be 5 or 10,000 strong. >> reporter

. >> hamid mir is a blogger and editor-in-chief of the the pakistani first paper. he accused pakistani administration to use violence. >> the attack takes us back to the attacks in 120 and 20 -- 2010 and 2011, attacks on journalists. in both occasions intelligence occurred. the government took no action. in the first place you encourage the human rights abusers, and give them a blank check. we are left with no authority to question them the second time. that happened in pakistan. in pakistan they had the authority to take action against people in the abduction and torture of investigative reporter, that wouldn't have happened. >> rounds of elections in india. a big issue is how to feed its people. a new law guarantees cheap food for 70% of a billion indians. it will not be easy. we have this report from a town where the program is under way. >> this woman depends on the subsidised food bought in this shop. she is married with two children. her families earns $50 a month. it does not go far. the public distribution scheme means they can afford to eat. buying basics

have certainly complain that afghanistan is sheltering pakistani taliban. that certainly afghans have complained of pakistan sheltering. due to some of the afghan how i make him open the border and make pacts. so i think the negotiations is all depends on what the deal look like and that the question has always been led to the taliban who have been very clear that they do not want democracy would actually come out and accept that accepted kinds of rights for women that time. i mean talk about i was listening to alot of stitching. excuse me for saying this with messing up his selection. yesterday on acne me begin with k i think it would be not easy for them to back down for all of them some of them. you know it's not it's not in uniform i grew a very different factions within the taliban as well so. but i think that that the leadership has never really been willing to back away from the original tenants to crossing at the outset of our show. you describe the enthusiasm that you witness traveling across afghanistan the last few weeks. what about the taliban w

when we're here, folks say, you're very cuban, you're very pakistani. and when we go home, right away, the way we dress is different, and we're in a no man's land where collectively we live in two different cultures but we can't stake a flag if anyone's face. >> is there a point where those things merge for people? coming up, the u.s. is still the top destination for immigrants, and our guests talk about why the american dream endures, after the break. >> we have been lucky enough to have been received by this country with open arms, and to be able to work here, to dream and to search and to achieve our dreams in this land, which is the greatest country on the face of the earth. no doubt. >> welcome back, we're talking about the american dream, the u.s. is the top destination worldwide for immigrants, and we're talking about how immigrants are straddling two worlds, and they almost have two identities. you've done thousands of interviews, and are there places where they miles per hour? >> there are points where they merge clearly. the younger immigrants

finish him off, and we let him escape over the other side of the mountain because we said that is pakistani territory. oh, wait. think for a moment. can you imagine during world war ii when we had admirals win the battle of midway, which changed the entire war against japan, he sailed across the international date line in the pacific and they tacked the japanese. destroyed the fleet, 1942. he went across the international dateline. supposed he turned back, that's the international dateline, and japan said if we don't cocross the international dateline, you take that part of the pacific and we take this, and we live happily ever after. get to the mountains in the middle of nowhere allowing al al-qaeda to escape makes no sense. our entire country had become morally blaiseic. we should have finished it right then. >> this month, booktv.org's book club selection is bing west, the wrong war. read the book, join in the discussion at booktv.org. live, sunday may 4th, look for the next in-depth guest, former gang member turned author and poet. his work includes the award winning "always running" an

we are both sons of pakistani immigrants. what's interesting is oftentimes in the community, when they want to knock us, they say you are becoming too american as if it was a bad thing. you spent half of my life in the u.s. and you become an ambassador of the new country you i mmigrate to and your old country and you have to strike a balance of what you expect of the new country and what you leave behind. >> that's a struggle. it is stigmatized to become too american. you have to find a balance. it's a paradox actually. you could stay within your own community and be comfortable like your home country or integrate. and if you don't integrate, you can't be part of the community. so, it's a tough balance. ann, you came to the fiphilippis ant went back for college. did you feel the pull? >> it was interesting. when i first came to the states, i lived in hawaii for a year and went back to finish my college because i didn't think i could afford here when i came back to the u.s., i was already 21. i was having a hard time looking f

however some pakistani wouldn't have been trying to get rid of the downs and elevate their status in society there are more graffiti has become teachers doctors lawyers and government staff across the country. fans international news on one the one hundred american troops have arrived including t participate in joint training exercises with that of its nato allies us paratroopers will be undertaking exercises with a prudish airborne units hundreds more u s and nato troops are expected to be deployed to start a new lappy and if you initially. we have we had intended. we had a whale they all our needs no obligations. the us ambassador to britain made reference to nate is on school finance which says that an attack on one country in the twenty eight strong alliance constitutes an attack on every member states as vice president biden's that is just a few weeks ago the kindle so president obama and i feel article five as a strong commitment of plenty of time but vocal time we take a deadly seriously and our commitment is absolutely sad thoughts and unshakable meanwhile russian into two un

on to some other developments not gonna stop this and that design has hinted the involvement of pakistani intelligence agencies the height of the santana attacks ahead of the presidential elections in the country. this is the funny and nice to get us to chia seeds. as adults many ends on a team the anti gun ten seconds off the hook after the headquarters of the independent election commission and a guest house was attacked and that the on friday and saturday officials have rejected the team off the new month of getting our duties in two thousand and two. this means buying agency the isi. on the streets of the attacks on each of the environmental fund and its agencies. he did that and the isi and the goblet and attacked its get ninety including full fun as this month the accused pakistan of not the end of the second assessment of the new timetable falling the phenomenon that one of the fields the photos of the danube and the demon of his time. this defense and the list of instructions. he says i can add text on the content of the new bond had bought the stock the upcoming olds. that is the

you said that pakistani intelligence, not only knew about his compound and where he was, but that mayctively collaborated in letting him survive in that compound. >> in the end, that's what i found. it took a while, and we felt there was some sort of accomplicety, it wasn't just stupidity, all those years that he was living there, six years just a few hundred yards from the military gathering. but in the end, they did find an inside source that they were handling him. you have a desk responsible for him, one man only that didn't report to anyone, he just did -- he made his own decisions. did everything himself. and he was handling therefore using but protecting him. so helping him survive. >> you heard this from a former head of the i.s.i., but then you also heard from other sources about that specific desk. >> no, that desk is a one source story. i have never been able to confirm it. but it is from an i.s.i. source, but not the head. they would never admit,s have very incredible when you trace the whole war as i did. >> it just made no sense, that this could have been there so in the

they know that if they have a comeback it will have a blowback on the pakistani state. second, as we said, the afghan people have spoken, shown their support for the mock receipt. -- for democracy. they don't want what the taliban has to offer. will have to factor into their planning for the future. >> great, thank you so much. question on the economy. jed feel free to jump in at any moment. the question is -- what are the prospects for sustained economic growth? we have turned a corner with the election. or at least we are at the beginning. we talked about the unsustainability of the state and the nsf and the need for continued funding. what are the prospects for the afghan economy to become more self-sufficient? thank you. >> it is a good question, actually. there has been so much focus on the past year or two on the security and political transitions that we are in the midst of. not enough attention has been paid to the economic transition that afghanistan is to undergo. i was in kabul a few weeks ago. you could clearly feel that people were anxious. that businesses,

and musharraf kept saying that and the leaders since have always said and the pakistani military say want a stable afghanistan. but actually what they are doing is the opposite. the training militants, they're indoctrine ating suicide bombers to go there and cause mayhem. i was just there last week in kabul. we had four suicide bombings in five days in kabul city. and so and they're coming from pakistan. there is to doubt that they are training-- that is what i cover, i show in the book. that there is a lot of training camps and indoctrine ating recruitment of young afghans and pakistanies that are sent in. >> srennivasan: you went to one of the madrasas where many of the suicide bombers were coming from. and you were able to speak to some people from there, what did you learn? ness we learned that families give their sons to the madrasases they go for religious instruction, because it is free, so they give their sons and then their sons are disappearing, they are told they had gone on off on a training exercise or to some other cause somewhere. and in fact, then they have been sent

we look for to working with pakistani american committee on this. we have no mechanism to allow us to do that and i think that the platoon engaged the diaspora committee which is something we enhanced over the last several years would be quite welcome to take this program to an even greater level of effectiveness. >> thank you, administrator shall. we will now turn to mr. l. the angle of new york. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i have four questions i'm going to try and do it -- eliot engel. i'm going to try to quickly. the first one is about something mentioned in my opening statement, tuberculosis. it's usually treatable as you know with inexpensive drugs but it's still the leading curable infectious disease in the world, claiming 1.3 million lives per year. and the emergence of multi-drug-resistant and extensively, drug-resistant strain really poses a direct threat to the public health of the u.s. this year's budget request, u.s. aides to the goes program or pose a $45 million cut from fy 2014 of 236 million. at a time of tight budgets with pat far

. >> we let them escape over the other side of the mountain because we said that his pakistani territorythink for a moment. can you imagine during world war battle ofe won the midway which changed entire war against japan, he sailed across international date line in the pacific and attacked the fleet,e, destroyed their 1942. he went across international date line. supposing here turned back and said well, that is international dateline and japan has said if we don't cross it, we will take this part of the pacific and you take that and we will live happily ever after

they are close to the pakistanis. they are not going to do anything rash. ironically, according to our sources, cars and went to china to see what they felt about engagement to the security agreement. the chinese said do it. make the deal. question my >> it will stabilize afghanistan. -- putin indicated that they would support that. not officially. >> what is the future for afghanistan? isit is a country that exceptionally young. 60%. the second youngest country on the planet after uganda. >> why is that? >> a postwar phenomenon. it will have lots of kids. we lost a million people during the soviet occupation. the population has gone up substantially. form earlier, i was discussing the changes. 6 million people have access to the internet. internet theet the a mobile device. a third of our internet users use facebook. >> while. -- wow. how has the life of women change? >> it is going to take a long time. what has changed is education. literacy rate has gone up substantially since 2001. we are looking at 35% in the next decade, 65%. it is the quickest change

in most recent public opinion polls and pakistan, roughly two thirds of pakistani consider the united states an enemy. this is a potential strategic problem in the context of what was once considered the war on terror now aptly renamed the war against al qaeda. we are set for a long time there's no kinetic solution to violent political extremists. donald rumsfeld appropriately questioned the so-called snowflake or 2003, whether the u.s. strategy was creating more extremist than it was one minute. that remains the fundamental question. the salish aside set off a bomb in 2010 by ongoing germ operations in pakistan. those operations have been instrumental in reducing the threat posed by core al qaeda. of course one with osama bin laden. to be clear, the threat is not disappearing, but represents a danger that can be effectively managed at a reduced level of effort. will we continue to do in pakistan comes at a very high cost. from a policy standpoint appears the obama at industry should not receive an president pledges to increase transparency of drawing operations has respected an arran

. >>> and the performance - introducing inmates to the arts led to the criticism of this pakistani gaol. >>> and in sport - can interim boss ryan giggs inspire his team. details coming up. . >> hundreds of thousands of pilgrims are gathering in vatican city ahead of a ceremony taking place on sunday. more from felicity barr from our broadcast center in london. >> yes, they are preparing for a double canonisation ceremony, pope francis will declare john paul ii and john xxiii saints. we have more from vatican city belles belles. >> reporter: two popes honoured to state hood. in st peter's square and around the world the faithful will bear witness in their billions. among them will be this woman, a woman whose recovering from a fatal brain aneurysm eight years ago is considered one of two miracles qualifying pope john paul ii to sainthood. >> i heard a voice say "get up, don't be afraid", my eyes were fixed on a picture of john paul ii, his hand were raised. it indicated for me to get up. i got up saying "yes, sir", that was my response. >> it happened in costa rica as she watched the lat

joie, thank you. >>> a nine month old pakistani boy charged with murder. being fingertippe fingerprinted. the little boy is out on bail and his family is taken him into hiding. the case has brought ridicule against pakistan's justice system. from u.s. to mexico and back again, nearly 2 million have been deported under the obama administration. sim insissome insist they are cn citizens. adam rainy reports. >> he is in an endless cycle. he insists he is a u.s. citizen. one smuggler broke his hands. another time he was kidnapped only escaping with the help of a stranger. >> get out of here she told me. if they get you they're going to kill you. >> the u.s. government couldn't prove he's not a citizen. he can't convince them he is. this is his father's arizona state birth certificate. usually enough proof that both father and son are citizens. but not for ef esteban. criminal history including drug possession and burglary. to esteeban's house is the only place he considers loam. >> at 83, julia rena last little time left with her son. >> i'm really worried abo