there is not a single israeli political party in the knesset that has recognized palestine and palestine's right to exist now going back to the issue of the jewish state the issue of the jewish state is something that was recently added to the negotiations ensuring that period that actually negotiations existed there was no demand for a jewish state and the reason that this demand is now cropping up is because israel wants to extinguish the rights of millions of palestinian refugees and wants to ensure that it has the right and the legitimacy to continue to carry out very discriminatory measures and racist measures against the palestinian refugees and against their own citizens who happen to have who happen not to be jewish this is why no palestinian leader will accept that but in terms of recognizing the actual state and the existence of a state every single political leader has come forward and recognized israel there has not been however a reciprocal recognition of palestine is right to exist by any israeli leader hamas hamas is correct hamas is recognized israel you see every political

palestine's bid for statehood against worldwide support amid threats of the u.s. will block them moving the un the world bank and the i.m.f. say the palestinian autonomy is already economically strong enough to stand on its own feet. the e.u. and belgrade to seek a diplomatic solution to the intense standoff in northern kosovo.

gets to sign on to the international criminal court then i think it's important for palestine to then start taking israel to court for the fact that these settlements continue for as much as an israeli leader and they say that they support a palestinian state one thing that they're not willing to do is to actually hold the establishment of colonies settlements and they're not willing to to evacuate the settlers who have been residing there illegally on palestinian land for more than four decades many what can be. told. moving forward their policy in recognizing a second state as you write about i mean what does that have to do i mean when the international community is saying that the occupation must come to an end a lot of israelis want to end the calculation as well how can it be done in light of this vote this is just symbolism and so many people in israel and washington say . i believe that the occupation shouldn't and i think you are being unfair to the americans the americans have supported palestinian statehood and continue to support palestinian state the problem for the pales

statehood showdown at the un as the general assembly gets ready to vote on the status of polish palestine with deep divisions preparing to crack the surface the u.s. and israel remain opposed to giving palestinians a seat at the world body. staying with that topic coming up on cross talk we take a look at whether a palestinian seat at the u.n. will mean little more than the paper it's written on if israel and the u.s. don't lay out the welcome mat stay with us. take. a lonely welcome to cross talk i'm here all about meaningless symbolism for a game changer in the absence of a peace process the palestinians will ask the united nations to upgrade their current observer status to that of full member state world opinion backs this bill but will it change anything on the ground. to. start. to cross stop the prospects for a palestinian state i'm joined by the end of the two in crime show she's a two by initiative research fellow palestinian human rights lawyer and a former legal advisor to the palestinian negotiating team and actually mash we have many more as he is a professor at ben gurion un

the world's key financial institutions meantime say an independent palestine would be strong enough to cope. by next on r.t. crosstalk looks at whether a palestinian seat at the u.n. will mean little more than the paper it's written on if israel and the us won't lay out any welcome that. will. bring you the latest insight instances. from. the future covered. if you can. think of. a low hanging welcome to cross talk i'm teetotal about meaningless symbolism or a game changer in the absence of a peace process the palestinians will ask the united nations to upgrade their current observer status to that of full member state world opinion backs this big but will it change anything on the ground. can. cross talk of prospects for a palestinian state i'm joined by the end of the two in kuranda she's a dubai initiative research fellow palestinian human rights lawyer and a former legal adviser to the palestinian negotiating team and that she mash we have many more as he's a professor at ben gurion university and his most recent book is one state two states resolving the israel palestine conflict

the us, we agreed to establish a state of palestine on only 22% of the territory of historical palestine. on all the palestinian territory occupied by israel in 1967. we, by taking that historic step, which was welcomed by the state of the world, made a major concession in order to achieve a historic compromise that would allow peace to be made in the land of peace. in the years that followed, from the madrid conference and the washington negotiations, the oslo agreement which was signed 18 years ago, in the white house garden, and was linked with the letters of mutual recognition, mutual recognition between the palestine liberation organization and israel, we persevered and acted positively and responsibly with all efforts aimed at the establishment of a lasting peace agreement. yet as we said earlier every initiative in every conference and every new round of negotiation and every movement was shattered on the rock of the israeli settlement expansion project. mr. president, ladies and gentlemen, i confirm on behalf of the palestine liberation organization the sole legitimate representa

and palestine's course which speed trap you were using religion to. create a sixteen year old but i don't know your existence until i got home from jerusalem with the palestinians taking control of a situation at a boiling point is the privilege of those with power but even the authority of the strongest can win. because those care and will take short cuts to allow whistles. and even standing ovation. are so. excellent see mr ban ki moon and application for the admission afghanistan as if one member of the united nations. official ask for recognition at the one for security council vote ignoring america's repeated warning to veto this to say after sixty three years of suffering. tragedy and mecca enough enough enough. it is time for the palestinian people to gain their freedom and independence the time has come obama the nobel peace prize winner the middle outwards did all he could to prevent this from happening but american power is gone as a result of. last year when we come back here next year we can have an agreement that will lead to a new member

following his bid for palestine statehood so i'm past negotiates negotiations between israel and palestine have failed where will this showdown we will debate. and a showdown in the west bank as clashes are met with tear gas and deadly violence we'll have a report from the israeli palestinian border. and are we i am asked as the world bank and i.m.f. meet in washington a global economic crisis possibly looms so can the i.m.f. solve the world's problems or is it part of the problem. that evening it's friday september twenty third it's four pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster you're watching our team. while the sixty sixth annual general assembly continues at the united nations meanwhile clashes between israelis and palestinians in the west bank continue now while in new york calls dinny a leader mahmoud abbas has handed over a bid for membership to the united nations this got a massive applause and a standing ovation from delegations including egypt when abbas took the podium at the u.n. g.a. today just take a. listen thank you. meanwhile outside our new york bureau just blocks awa

how can i imagine palestine 2018 in the same thing is today. they can't imagine palestine 2018.hen onevoice said about the project, i said i can't imagine palestine 2018. but like we used helping the people, that is, okay, do you think that we're going to get a state in 02018? do you think that efforts are going to work? do you think that the settlements are going to be inside your house if we don't sign agreement from today to 2018? and by that we began hearing things positive things from people, and they began to be optimistic a little bit. and this is one of the projects that has much effect on the palestinian side. like, what we were trying to do is building the palestinian state inside the palestinian -- inside the head of the palestinian before going to a bilateral agreement that is going to be signed by the leaders. the important thing is this. most of the time palestinians have been negotiating and working. but like the last point in their framework is liberating palestine. if we liberate palestine today, we need the economy, we need so many things to be done in order to

bid for recognized statehood we know that palestine is already recognized by over one hundred twenty countries why does this u.n. vote matter it's very important because this is a turning point and sort of palestinian history and in the history of peacemaking in the region we do have as you said bilateral recognitions from different countries we have right now one hundred twenty seven but at the same time we are we have been engaged in the peace process that has taken on over two decades of prolongation and stalling with israel creating facts on the ground building settlements in the latterly acting from a position of power as an occupier and undermining the chances of peace and the objectives of the two state solution and so on so we are trying now to say that this is a new phase a new era that we are going to the international community to say that the palestinian question and the palestinian people have that i to start with emanation and should be placed within this international context as the essence of multilateralism as the source of international global legislation and the pa

recognize palestine as a state now his speech also comes a year after obama stood at that very same podium pledging hopes for brokering middle east peace and giving palestine statehood by this time we'll get the latest from the u.n. g.a. debates that began today but first a look back at the most memorable moments of u.n. gas' in the past. if only these walls could talk. pumped up while factor and center stage drama would be their story every year for about ten days the united nations becomes america for world leaders of the confrontational to the surprising to be outright wacky b. when she never fails to impress what happens right here becomes a mirror image of what an engaging game politics seventy over a hundred and ninety members make up the general assembly to get attention we don't have to get creative if you want a lot of attention you could try to make streak the united nations nobody nobody has come in but naked with a gold on their back i mean so far none of this has happened but i wouldn't rule it out in the future that's one of few tricks that have not been performed here

thus, we agree to establish a state of palestine on only 22% of the territory of historical palestine67. we, by taking that historic step, which was welcome by the states of the world, made a major concession in order to achieve a historic compromise that would allow peace to be made in the land of peace. in the years that followed, from the madrid conference, an the washington negotiations leading to the oslo agreement which was signed 18 years ago. white house garden and was linked with the letters of mutual recognition -- mutual recognition -- between the palestine liberation organization and israel. we persevered and dealt positively and responsibly with all efforts aimed at the establishment of a lasting peace agreement. yet, as we said earlier, every initiative an every conference and every new round of negotiations and every movement was shattered on the rock of the israeli settlement expansion project. mr. president, ladies and gentlemen, i confirm on behalf of the palestine liberation organization the sole legitimate representative of the palestinian people which will remain

palestine should not be a member of the un. they want it on record but the vast majority of the people the world do believe that it's time the younger u.n.g.a. gathering all we have mark my life. yet many wonder if this super bowl of diplomatic strategy leads to anything more than the event itself marina point neither party. tensions nor the cost of over discuss this week in brussels is both grades top negotiator called for calm urging all sides to seek a diplomatic solution the atmosphere in the region intensified after prishtina backed by nato led forces placed customs officials on the two disputed border posts that were previously under control in response ethnic serbs blocked all the roads leading to the crossings but to syria furthest more on this highly charged situation. as stand of course of those thirty's with e.u. and nato forces on one side ethnic serbian protesters on the other keep it for us this is our land our territory it's refusing to accept the costing government's attempts to take control of two border crossi

summit in new york builds to a crescendo as palestine prepares to hand it is bid for statehood later today despite obama's promise to veto any favorable outcome. this things cuts through your calls for calm meaning that what you know i'm standing inside palestine. and as i walk through here. i'm now in israel. the decades long animosity between israeli settlers and locals an offer by palestine reaches new heights as both sides stake their claim to the same land. both gary and romania are denied european visa free travel despite previous promises as some member states say the two countries need to sort out corruption and crime issues. as america puts more of its deadly drones in the skies over africa critics say its attempt to make the world safer is only driving more people towards terror. as a.t.m. in the russian capital you're watching our. welcome to the program his series being made today in new york as palestine prepares to hand in its formal request for u.n. recognition in just a few hours but a desperate washington which did all it could to derail the submission is now threate

a story mormon not only for palestine but for the whole region. well as you have said earlier i mean the negotiations have been tough and the peace talks have been going on for decades there but how. justified do you think is the israeli attitude towards the occupied territory and where does the attitude come from i mean many may have the impression that they have a very superior attitude towards palestinians. well if you and i don't think that will destroy a government or the position of this or your government after this it's more hard work they're going to be very very happy with it i think the most important is to understand what happened yesterday at a turning point rather than an isolated event this speech has to be a turning point whereby the international community will not always support palestinian rights but also israel accountable for their actions and i think that's something very important you mention michael shisha policy means we're not against negotiations with the king is what kind of middle season we're not willing to negotiate

and palestine's course for statehood at the u.n. use real has been. creating a. mere existence and stealing. from through the menopause and taking control of a situation at a boiling point is the privilege of those with power but even the authority of the strongest can win. because those better care and will take shortcuts to allow whistles. and even standing ovation thank you are so. excellent see mr van an application for the admission afghanistan as a full member of the united nations. palestine officially ask for recognition at the one for security council vote ignoring america's repeated warning to veto this to say after sixty three years of suffering on saturday and enough enough enough thank you. it is time for the palestinian people to gain their freedom and independence the time has come for the form of the nobel peace prize winner for middle east our first kid he could to prevent this from happening in american power is gone as a result of footfall last year when we come back here next year we can have an agreement that will lead to a new member of the

meanwhile palestine's bid for statehood at the u.n. is on shaky ground with speculation a deals already been struck between the palestinian and u.s. leaders starting anger both in israel and the west bank. at an old nasa satellite hurdling towards earth with a number of fragments expecting to come crashing down but u.s. scientists still can't say where. ten pm in moscow i met reza good to have you with us here on r t our top story again said the u.n. gathering in new york have once again been heated up by a speech by the iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad the u.s. france and other western nations walked out of the assembly as a sign of protest out of his claims or he's married a port nigerians us live from new york with the latest hello marina so what was said to trigger a reaction from several u.n. members. well the president iraq's talk to the podium and it was probably under ten minutes before delegations started walking out he attacked the u.s. for its history of slavery he attacked the u.s. for using a nuclear bomb and he also

palestine is being reborn. this is my message. may all the people of the world stand with the people of palestine as it marches stedfastly to its appointment with history with freedom, with independence right now. and i hope that we shall not wait for long. thank you all. [applause] i invite him to address the general assembly. >> thank you, mr. president. ladies and gentlemen, israel has extended its hand in peace from the moment it was established 63 years ago. on behalf of israel and the jewish people, i extend that hand again today. i extend it to the people of egypt and jordan with renewed friendship for neighbors with whom we have made peace. i extend it to the people of turkey with respect and good will. i extend it to the people of libya, tune easea, with admiration for those trying to build a democratic future. i extend it to the other peoples of north africa and the arabian peninsula. with whom we want to forge a new beginning. i extend it to the people of syria, lebanon, and iran, with all the courage of those fighting

and one hundred twenty of the un's one hundred ninety three member states already recognize palestine as a state now his speech comes a year after obama stood at that very same podium pledging hopes for brokering middle east peace giving palestine statehood by this time obviously that hasn't happened and will get into all the latest from the u.n.g.a. debates that began today but first let's look back at the most memorable moments of u.n. gas' past. if only these walls could talk. about pumped up wow factor and center stage drama would be their story every year for about ten days the united nations becomes a mecca for world leaders for a confrontational to be surprising to be out white blackie be you when she will be mentioned never feels too impressed what happens right here becomes a mirror image of what an engaging game politics i mean over one hundred ninety members make up the general assembly to get attention leaders have to get creative if you want a lot of attention you could try to like streak the united nations nobody's done that yet nobody's come in but naked with the gold o

statehood so asked past negotiations between israel and palestine have failed where will the showdown the. this is a situation where. it has become a combat zone if so who controls the after disclosures by wiki leaks al-jazeera has replaced its top news director so in this day and age how does the media then need to change its coverage to get him with this data department and the white house. plus as the world economy lies on the brink of possible collapse a movement is offering some alternative ideas for society we'll take you up to their utopian way of life and sure that the u.s. project. good evening it's friday september twenty third five pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster and you're watching r.t. . as the sixty sixth general assembly continues at the united nations in new york clashes between israelis and palestinians in the west bank continue while back in new york palestinian leader mahmoud abbas has handed over a bid for membership to the united nations now this got a massive applause and standing ovation from delegations including egypt when a boss took the podium a

the world's key financial institutions an independent palestine will be strong enough to cope. and more on that then the head of that u.n. vote we've been hearing from the people making that call the key palestinian politician explains next why four member status will finally hold israel to account over its actions and occupations. archie sitting down with award winning scholar and internationally recognized politician executive committee member of the palestine liberation organization dr hanan ashrawi thank you so much for joining us today thank you and it's my pleasure dr charlie let's start with one of the most highlighted issues this year's united nations general assembly gathering of course palestine's bid for recognized statehood we know that palestine is already recognized by over one hundred twenty countries why does this u.n. vote matter that's very important because this is a turning point in sort of palestinian history and in the history of peacemaking in the region we do have as you said bilateral recognitions from different countries we have right now one hundred t

and a state of showdown at the un as the general assembly prepares to vote on the status of palestine with deep divisions preparing to crack the surface the u.s. and israel remain opposed to giving the palestinians a seat at the bull by. the head of that vote in new york r.t. sat down with palestinian politician hung on a shroud she believes getting full membership status will finally allow israel to be held to account for the crimes that she says it can it against the palestinian people and the occupation of their land. archie sitting down with award winning scholar and internationally recognized politician executive committee member of the palestine liberation organization dr hanan ashrawi thank you so much for joining us today thank you and it's my pleasure dr shari let's start with one of the most highlighted issues this year's united nations general assembly gathering of course palestine's bid for recognized statehood we know that palestine is already recognized by over one hundred twenty countries why does this u.n. vote matter it's very important because this is a turning point

of palestine should be done only only after israel and palestine get back to some of the negotiation table israel of course is also not in support of this move and we will expect to hear a bunch of it as and yahoo address this issue when he speaks to the general assembly as a matter of fact the majority of the u.n. member u.n. members support palestinian membership to the u.n. and support palestinian statehood and one of the many countries to support palestine's ambition is iran and the iranian leader mahmoud ahmadinejad did address the general assembly causing some thirty countries to get out and that was walk out in the middle of his speech the first delegation was that of the united states which got up and walked out after president ahmadinejad said that the mysterious september eleventh attacks he was referring to nine eleven then a mass exodus came all the members of the european union the delegations for them got out and walked out a message out also. accused western powers of imposing and supporting so tell its hereon regimes in asian african and latin american nations he thre

well history in the making that's the case here in palestine as palestinians prepare for this historic but for statehood at the united nations tens of thousands of palestinians are expected later today here on the streets of ramallah and elsewhere across a whole waste bank there are huge stages that are being prepared with pay t.v. screens that will bore cost lives the speech of the palestinian president mahmoud abbas later today now this is a moment that's how this thing is has been preparing for yes when you talk to palestinians they say that this is the culmination of decades of struggle at the same time what we expect to happen tonight is that the palestinian president will give a speech at the united nations general assembly so too will be israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu abbas is going to go with his goods to the united nations security council despite pressure from the american president barack obama not to do so and in fact the pressure from the united states has angered and disappointed palestinians many of them saying that they feel that obama's speech on wednesday w

still has that representation it's called palestine but it means the p.l.o. officially so that's what we're looking at the p.l.o. is now going to come to the united nations and say we want to be a member if they come to the security council as you said the u.s. has said no dice we're going to veto what's more likely in my view and the palestinians are not being very clear yet we don't know exactly what their plan is i think they're going to go more likely directly to the general assembly where there is no introduction as we call it the vatican option is one way to put it but the key thing is that represents the real democracy of the united nations every country has one vote and there's no vetoes so the u.s. can vote against it israel can vote against it but nobody can stop it and the vote will be overwhelming but what they will get in their vote is not membership they will get a raise if you will it will go one notch from being an observer entity to being an observer state and. in the context of the united nations itself that won't change very much they still

palestine in 2018.eyal was talking about it an hour ago, less than that. during this activity we go to the streets and palestine, and we, like record videos with the people. we ask them how do you imagine palestine in 2018? most of the time they say what you mean, like how can i imagine palestine in 2018. the same thing is today. we can't even imagine palestine in 2018. and even when one voice told me about this project first i said how to light a match in 2018. but we used helping the people that is okay, do you think that we are going to get a stake in 2018? do you think that the efforts are going to work? do you think that the settlements are going to be inside your house if we don't sign agreement from 2018 and by that, we began to like curing things, positive things from people and they begin to be optimistic a little bit, and this is one of the projects that had much effect on the palestinian side like what we are trying to do is build the pub steny and stayed inside the heads of the palestinians

going off on his guest palestine's chance of becoming a new member of the u.n. spotlight is now. the welcome to the interview on tarts t.v. i'm now we're not in for they our spotlight is on the middle east palestinian president mahmoud abbas has a hard time in a vicious diplomatic campaign seeking fully fledged. israel with the u.s. support of course is resisting saying such a move will hamper peace starts with the palestinians the other hand abbas insists his people do have a right to be fully represented in the u.n. itself just palestine really have a trucks to become the one hundred ninety five member part of the united nations and what's made it mean for the rest of the middle east we're asking professor eating those of a gas from the institute of oriental studies of the russian academy of science. in israel warns the current situation i mean least will likely be upset if they do add everything and isis palestine as a member state jerusalem here's a supporter granted what abbas and his people need bury the peace process once and for all and spark more conflict in the region t