in iraq we continued on our way towards palestine degioia about resistance in palestine. we were there picking all of this, very redemptive. the palestinian economy, the palestinian barbara as poetry. all of it is paid to the all of is at the core of palestine so you think all loves what family to take them from the israeli troops and from the settlers must fall and you pick from trees hundreds of-years-old. it is a biblical moment. while we were picking and please i was attacked by a group of israeli settlers from brooklyn. the hilltop youth. they hit me with everything they have, let me say it that way, and i've record my vertebrae and i welcome this came because what happened to meeting all loves that they but i want to say when we came down from the hill the olive groves were always on the side of the mountain when we finally got down we were allowed to come down and the members of the town council came running up to me and said it is a terrible thing that happened, but now you well know in your own bones what we have suffered for the last 60 years and i know we'd in

he said it as late as 1946, before the aglo american committee into the state of palestine. this is the committee in which richard crossman was in witcha. the idea of a state is hateful to me. two years before the founding of the state of israel. >> when whitesman died, who offered the presidency to einstein? >> bangurian. wouldn't that have been a disaster. >> there's the famous joke that he said, what do we do if he accepts? but because they considered him to be the greatest jew of the 20th century, they had no choice but to offer it to him. there was no danger he would have accepted. >> let's inquire about whether the world hasn't produced another einstein in the past hundred years. why is it only albert einstein that has been able to accomplish what he accomplished? is it only because of his genius or were there a set of circumstances working in his favor, for example, were there social circumstances? were there occupational circumstances? were there economic circumstances? to track that further, isn't it true that there isn't much room today for a wayward maverick that

not just in love and on or palestine, but in the iraq and saudi arabia. -- not just in irawq, or palestine. it has tried to overthrow every one of those countries including egypt, except the uae. it is not an idle fear. it is very real and significant over the long term. the last thread will mention is the water one of non- proliferation. right now for many countries around the world, non- proliferation has a very mixed record. there are countries out there that the international community has punished severely for pursuit of nuclear capability. i put libya in that category, iraq, and even north korea. north korea paid a price that no other country on earth would be willing to pay. it actually did help to reinforce the non-proliferation norm. set against those three good cases are three bad ones. israel, india, pakistan. they acquired weapons not scot- free, but at a price many others would consider acceptable. iran will be the decider. it is and put them because the entire world, including all five members from a permanent members of the u.n. security council have stated clearly and repea

israel-palestine used to be the base grievance. of a sudden, he was talking about climate change, corruption on wall street. the grievances have expanded, so long as the recruitment is down a little bit. host: you mentioned the john rry-dick lugar bill. g. culp i think the cynicism and skepticism toward american policy, the bill was intended to support civilian institutions at the expense of just giving money to the army and that in the pakistani government deal with it. yet, when this bill came out, because there were elements that tried to give up the civilian government influence over the army's promotion process, the pakistani people were up in arms that the u.s. was trying to influence the policy. host: louisville, ky. republican line. caller: i was wondering if you could differentiate between the pakistani taliban and the afghan taliban. wh binds them together? is it religious ideology or political ideology? if you hear so much about each one, and what are their relationships and their differences? guest: a fantastic question

israel-palestine used to be the base grievance. of a sudden, he was talking about climate change, corruption on wall street. the grievances have expanded, so long as the recruitment is down a little bit. host: you mentioned the john kerry-dick lugar bill. g. culp i think the cynicism and skepticism toward american policy, the bill was intended to support civilian institutions at the expense of just giving money to the army and that in the pakistani government deal with it. yet, when this bill came out, because there were elements that tried to give up the civilian government influence over the army's promotion process, the pakistani people were up in arms that the u.s. was trying to influence the policy. host: louisville, ky. republican line. caller: i was wondering if you could differentiate between the pakistani taliban and the afghan taliban. what binds them together? is it religious ideology or political ideology? if you hear so much about each one, and what are their relationships and their differences? guest: a fantastic ques

we need to try to work in some serious way to address israel- palestine. this will shock you, but the ultimate ideal solution for israel and palestine is a two- state solution based on a credible palestinian state. but you are never going to get that if, with in palestinian politics, hamas, the group that has been supported by iran, becomes stronger and political moderates within the palestinian community become marginalized. this is one of the reasons why a nuclear iran is so toxic to the hope of any kind of peace agreement between israel and anyone. do think that israel will withdraw from an inch of territory if they feel that a hamas government that is deeply supported by iran and has a threat of nuclear plants behind it [unintelligible] [applause] >> and gentlemen, thank you very much. we now have five minutes left. let's take two minutes apiece. let's begin with you, roger, for final statements. >> i would start by saying that a lot of people in iran have changed places. they were in the mode of reluctant acquiescence to this regime. they are now oppo

the palestine is a word the romans inflicted on the jews after they destroyed their temples and dispersed them in the four corners of the earth. they named their homeland which happens to be the west bank, judea and samarra. they named it after their enemies, the philistines, so much for the occupied lands. and then there were many false messiahs but there was a really big one in -- i've forgotten my dates now. in the 15th, 16th century. a man who was told by a scholar that he was the messiah. and he converted. i mean, all the jewish communities, he lived in the middle east. but eastern europe, half the jews were following this messiah. and then he went to convert -- just to show you how nothing really changes, to convert the sultan in turkey, the head of islam. and the sultan said, convert or we'll behead you and he converted. this was an unbelievable tragedy for the jews. so the rabbis had the concept of hurrying the messiah. human beings cannot make the messiah come more quickly. and, of course, that again is what -- that's what radicalism is about. making a messiah except they think o

>> translator: what does this have to do with palestine?y: do you agree there was a holocaust? >> translator: allow me to raise a second question and you'll get your answer. >> larry: are you denying the holocaust existed. >> translator: you can't violate the rights -- >> larry: i understand that. but do you agree there was a holocaust. that's a simple yes or no. i don't think he'll let me do him again. ahmadinejad, that was something. i agree with myself. we need our help choosing our top five larry king live moments. to vote for this or one of the other top moments, go to cnn.com/larryking. while you're there sign up for our lkl top 25 sweep stakes. you can also win this one of a kind lkl 25 t-shirt. got two sides to it. more with jack hannah coming up. don't go away. granola nut clusters from nature valley. 100% natural nuts and granola in bite sized clusters. it's a little bit of nature... a little bit better. and nature approves. granola nut clusters from nature valley. >> larry: we're back with jack hannah. how much can actually be do

>> mudd: they're seeing images, for example, of children and women in place like palestine and iraq. they're seeing sermons of people who explain in simple, compelling and, in some cases, magnetic terms why it's important that they join the jihad. they're seeing images and messages that confirm a path that they're already thinking of taking. >> kroft: and they're seeing all this in english. >> mudd: yes, that's correct. >> kroft: those internet messages are believed to be one of the reasons why a dental student, a tennis player pursuing a degree in business, and three friends from a mosque in alexandria, virginia, abandoned their middle class existence without telling their parents and set off for the wilds of pakistan, leaving behind a farewell video. they were arrested there a short time later on terrorism charges after trying to make contact with a man pakistani authorities say is an al qaeda commander. they are now on trial facing life in prison. their parents claim they're innocent. >> mudd: i think they went over with some clear intent in mind, and that wasn't to have a vacatio

44 of the rules of procedure, we suggest being adopted, the secretary has received a request from palestine. matt ticket the conference wishes to approve this request? it is so desired. -- may i take it. with regard to rules of procedure, a request for agencies from the african union, the brazilian agency for accounting and control of nuclear materials, the preparatory commission for the comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty organization, the european union, the international red cross, the parliamentary union, the international science and technology center, the league of arab states, the north atlantic treaty organization, the nato parliamentary assembly, the organization of islamic conference, the agency for the prohibition of nuclear weapons in latin america and the kariba, and the pacific islands -- and the caribbean. netiquette the conference which is to approve these requests? it is so desired. -- may i take it the conference will approve these? according to the rules of procedure, request to attend meetings of the plenary, received a from 121 ngo's. the list has been made available

nor to focus on countries where there are particularities such as israel and the conflict and with palestine or to but challenges venezuela or post-apartheid south africa. instead, in the course of the years truffle's i focused on countries that whatever the political few accepted the terms of globalization. the mobil site is singapore, the state which i was born and have long the senate words i'm constantly struck by the number of people i know, good friends who very eloquently defended the system that elevates individual restraint in return for the collective groups. this is what i called the pact or the trade-off. of course i developed the detail that even though others rifle at it and are uncomfortable with the term it simply asks the question why do those people in that country, friends of mine in singapore who are extraordinarily well troubled high treasury degrees nevertheless had a quite normal or undesirable to put to one side one of the most elementary freedoms the freedom of speech. i had originally envisioned the book falling into the post 1989 genre as a particularly good by the

not just in love and on or palestine, but in the iraq and saudi arabia. -- not just in irawq, or palestine. it has tried to overthrow every one of those countries including egypt, except the uae. it is not an idle fear. it is very real and significant over the long term. the last thread will mention is the water one of non- proliferation. right now for many countries around the world, non- proliferation has a very mixed record. there are countries out there that the international community has punished severely for pursuit of nuclear capability. i put libya in that category, iraq, and even north korea. north korea paid a price that no other country on earth would be willing to pay. it actually did help to reinforce the non-proliferation norm. set against those three good cases are three bad ones. israel, india, pakistan. they acquired weapons not scot- free, but at a price many others would consider acceptable. iran will be the decider. it is and put them because the entire world, including all five members from a permanent members of the u.n. security council have stated clearly and repea

the palestine -- pakistani taliban is stronger. these entities working together for so long, to deal with the issue of sanctuaries is the main issue. we also have some issues with refugees and from time to time the government's, there are some supporters for the insurgency. these are the issues that need to be raised with neighboring countries. again, i am not interested in the public part of it. the country can gain from the instability of afghanistan. remember the days before 2001. that is a good incentive to take us where we ought to be. host: jonathan is on the line from kent, ohio. good morning. caller: good morning. i wanted to ask your guest -- he is a medical doctor? guest: i was. i do not practice anymore. caller: when you become president of afghanistan, but would you do differently? the back you depend on us as a sovereign, independent state, when will you break that and stop depending on our money coming to you? have you thought about that? thank you. guest: absolutely. we are emphasizing that support for afghanistan fu

the ultimate ideal solution for israel and palestine is a two- stage solution based on a credible palestinian state. you are never going to get that if within palestinian politics hamas become stronger and political moderates within the community become marginalized. this is one of the reasons why a nuclear iran is so costly to the hopes of any type of peace agreement do you think israel will withdraw from territory if it feels that a hamas a government has the threat of a nuclear weapon behind it? you have to be serious from prevented them from acquiring a new weapon. we will now have five minutes left. let's begin with you, roger, for final statement. >> i would start by saying that a lot of people in iran have changed places. they were in the mode of reluctant acquiescence. but they are moving in different, offices, directions. the iranian people are a noble people. they have a sincere desire to move toward a situation where the word republic actually mean something. we should be careful asking the night it states to try to nourish that and move it forward read it and do anything rash that

he has been right to beef up gulf defenses as deterrents, right to keep a strong focus on israel-palestineeace that would defang iran's rhetoric. he has been right to ratchet down the war of words with iran and believes that and an iranian reconciliation could be a breakthrough as momentous for the world as the knicks and 1952 -- as the knicks and 1952 visit to china. -- as the nixon visits to china [applause] >> thank you very much, roger. brett stevens. >> good many thank you to the american jewish committee for giving me the honor of inviting me to the stage. thank you also to roger for sharing it with me. roger and i are here because we agree about one thing and probably only one thing. [laughter] iran is indeed the single greatest foreign-policy challenge that the obama administration will face in the next three or seven years. on other points, we do not see eye to eye. for instance, when roger wrote last year on his first trip to iran that the iranians were looking for reform but were in no mood for an appeal, i disagreed with him then. i think that the facts, as they played up over

the palestine -- pakistani taliban is stronger. these entities working together for so long, to deal

. >> what i think is vital now is the americans agreed to talk to the palestine leadership. >> in 2000he wrote about the taliban and the rise of osama bin laden. now, with the 10th anniversary edition of his book, he looks at what is next on "q&a", tonight on c-span. >> newspaper -- newsmakers is pleased to welcome mark warner. senator, thank you for being with us. let me introduce our to reporters. next to me, damian paleta of "the wall street journal." >> this is a very large bill, as you all know, with a lot of elements to it and a lot of complex language we have heard over the past week. for the everyday american, who wonders how it matters to them and if it protect them, i think there are three or four overriding goals that both parties have. we want to make sure that we never get to where the american public was forced to bail out large financial institutions the way we had to in the fall of 2008. we did not have any kind of early warning system to prevent institutions from getting too big to fail. we put a series of what i call speedboats