palestine is a state but nobody helped palestine and we have to take that step -- palestine state and israeli state. >> charlie: we conclude then with the egyptian jrnalist ethar el-katatney. >> i think now the majority egyptians no longer do we have this fear. it's very much -- that we've reclaimed what it means to be a citizen, to have a power. that you're empowered and i think once egyptians have that thers no goingack. >> charlie: prime minister recep tayyip erdogan and journalist ethar el-katatney when we continue. >> every story needs a hero we can all root for, who ats the odds, comes out on top. th this isn't just a hollywood story line, it's happening every day, all across america. every time a storefront opens, or the midnight oil is burned, or when someone chases a dream, not just a dollar. they are small business owners. so if you want to root for a real hero, support small business. shop small. captioning sponsored by rose communications from o studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> charlie: among the important leaders addressing the united nations general assembly in

palestine there is not a single israeli political party in the knesset that has recognized palestine and palestine's right to exist now going back to the issue of the jewish state the issue of the jewish state is something that was recently added to the negotiations ensuring that period that actually negotiations existed there was no demand for a jewish state and the reason that this demand is now cropping up is because israel wants to extinguish the rights of millions of palestinian refugees and wants to ensure that it has the right and the legitimacy to continue to carry out very discriminatory measures and racist measures against the palestinian refugees and against their own citizens who happen to have who happen not to be jewish this is why no palestinian leader will accept that but in terms of recognizing the actual state and the existence of a state every single political leader has come forward and recognized israel there has not been however a reciprocal recognition of palestine is right to exist by any israeli leader hamas hamas is correct hamas is recognized israel you see every political leader hamas represents more than half of the palestinian people and they do not recognize i

israelis signing so again we're seeing a surge of support here in israel for the recognition of palestine they say that these two states should co-exist alongside each other that the palestinian state should be within sixty seven borders and they calling on all israelis to support this move now the latest news we have coming out of new york is that the palestinian president mahmoud abbas tomorrow friday will make his application for statehood but that the vote will be delayed and we've been told that this could be delayed for several months possibly until next june before it could be any kind of movement on the vote issue but other than that here down in watch child street where for several months earlier this year protesters gathered to lobby against an attorney who government the vibe here is very much in support of a palestinian state as it is indeed across the west bank and the whole of palestine what we now have the director of the one voice movement in israel tell harris who organized this why do you think it's important for this way to succumb to the street and show the support for the establishment of palestine i think that we have been failing at creativity all of the all

palestine. the united states has vowed to veto the bid, saying the only way for palestinians to create a state of their own is through negotiations with israelis. after years of failed peace talks with israel sponsored by the u.s., the palestinians say they have no choice but to appeal directly to the international community. >> it was dual time at the un general assembly. once again, an arena for the intricacies of the middle east conflict to be played out. palestinian president mahmoud hamas -- mach mod abbas -- mahmoud abbas and benjamin netanyahu each had roughly an hour to stake out their positions. the u.s. has pledged to use its veto. abbas knows the application is doomed to failure and so he reaffirmed his willingness to negotiate. >> on behalf of the palestinian people and the plo, we extend our hands to the israeli government and the people for peacemaking. the truth is that in the middle east at all times, but especially in these turbulent days, peace must be anchored in security. the truth is we cannot achieve peace 3 yuen resolution, but only through direct negotiation the jig peace through un resolutions, but only through direct

for jews shall return only to the future state of palestine and jews should return only to the to the state of israel why has the israeli international campaign against the un but failed especially when it was just a few months ago when israel seemed internationally to win the fight against stopping the second fertility tend to break the blockade on gaza i sings that most israelis do not understand. the war that we are fighting to assume that we are acting we are behaving as if we are fighting a conventional war we do not understand that the are fighting our symmetry of war which is totally different and what we are doing we are winning every bottle and we are losing the war what can bring peace to the region. will not come with. no hope. if people will not believe that it is achievable. they will not achieve it so the question should be what should be do what should be do or what can we do in order to create top mr i mean i alone thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. thank you very much. culture is that so much different and there's a huge music to share the power to find those the friends turkey in the geopo

state of palestine and jews sure return only to the to the state of israel why has the israeli international campaign against the un bed failed especially when it was just a few months ago when israel seemed internationally to win the fight against stopping the second fertility tend to break the blockade on gaza i sings that most israelis do not understand the war that we are fighting with a seems that we are acting or we are behaving as if we are fighting a conventional war we do not understand that the are fighting a symmetry war which is totally different and what we are doing we are winning every bottle and we are losing the war what can bring peace to the region beasts will not come with is no hope. if people will not believe that if you achieve a bit. they will not achieve it so the question should be what should be do what should be do or what can we do in order to create top mr ami ayalon thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. thank you very much. he's . broadcasting live from the heart of moscow this is our team every with us let's talk about what's going against the grain the president obama tells palestinians it's bad for statehood at the u.n. is going nowhere without a peace process despite overwhelming international support for the most washington continues to threaten a veto at the security council the president abbas appears determined to go ahead with a motion on friday. while in the west bank thousands take to the streets in a show of support for a possible u.n. resolution recognizing a palestinian state there were scenes of jubilation as the marches those people mark what could prove an historic occasion. and do warning maybe you international.

reason the united states is going to veto it is because we have taken the view, the united states, that a full fledged state of palestine should come about through negotiations with the israelist as we ask the israelis not to take steps to prejudge the outcome of negotiations, we're asking the -- the obama administration is asking the palestinians not to prejudge the outcome by taking these unilateral steps. the idea here is this is a tough problem, and the palestinians and the israelis have to solve it together, and one side just acting is not going to solve the problem. >> is the u.s. position on this vote a contradiction to the kind of u.s. support that went toward the arab spring? >> well, i think there will surely be some who say that. i think the big difference, and this is something that has always puzzled me over the years, is in the arab spring what you saw were hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people pursuing, at least in cairo and egypt, the primary example, peaceful change and peaceful change of their government. i have never understood why the palestinians and, frankly, if they did this, the israelis would really have some concerns, why they haven't come out

from the palestinian leader who is demanding palestine be recognized by the united states -- rather by the u.n. as its own state and then later from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he's going to take the stage. many assume that obviously he's going to be shooting that down. that is not a surprise. we're going to be keeping a close eye on all of these speeches and the developments out of the united nations all day today on cnn "newsroom." >>> we're also keeping a close eye on some other things. some other stories we're covering. fact checking last night's gop debate from social security claims to immigration reform. we are also monitoring your money in the volatile markets. we'll have a live report from the new york stock exchange. >>> and then check this out. dorm life. looking pretty sweet. yeah, on some college campuses, far from the cinder block cubicles i actually recall. >>> and conservatives, their most famous voices are gathering in orlando today for their annual conference. we'll take you there live. >>> and later, say it ain't so, soap opera fans need an extra tissue box today. "all my children" going away, hanging it

palestine as a state. israeli prime minister is traveling to new york to make an in-person rebuttal. caught in the cross-fire, the united states lasting solution is through direct negotiations between the parties and the route to that lays in jerusalem and ramallah, not in new york. >> the united states vows to use its security council veto to block the membership. but abbas pledges to press on and take the matter to the general assembly, that body expected to approve palestine as a observer state. the change would allow palestinians to gain access to the international criminal court. pursue charges against israelis. it will not affect israeli's borders or displace any of the 500,000 israeli settlers now in the palestinian territories. but the united states is concerned that the move could crash any chance of further negotiations and xab exacerbate anti-american sentiment in the region. joining me now is a big player in the talks, former british prime minister, tony blair. welcome to "this week." >> thank you, christiane. >> is there any way of avoiding this or is this a done proposition? they will go to the security council,

where both states have to sit down, israelis and palestinians have to hammer out an agreement and repudiates the basis of the original partition of palestine into a jewish state and an arab state. we talk about the palestinian refugees. they have been used as pawns as the palestinian leadership and the arab states in the world and we ought to mention this because it is important. jewish refugees from north africa, from europe, from all over the world came to israel and were integrated into israeli society through the years. the palestinian refugees could have and should have been integrated in the various arab countries, but the arab leaders decided to leave them in these horrendous conditions in these camps and use them as pawns in the palestinian camps. it wasn't done by the israelis, but done by the palestinians themselves and by the arab nations themselves to use them as political pawns. i think we should look at the people who are really suffering here and say why they are suffering. they are suffering because they had a leadership that has failed them for more than 60 years. i'm proud of the united states of america. i'm proud for my country standing up for freedom and s

state, but the palestinians want a state without peace. and the truth is, you shouldn't let that happen. >> the israeli ambassador to the united states, michael orrin writing in the wall street journal, until palestineine. gaza run by hamas which explicitly calls for the destruction of israel and the west bank run by the pa which says it will recognize israel, but not as a jewish state. imagine if you have a dispute with somebody, are you willing to sit down with them before they recognize who you are? it seems to me that a pre recognizance requisite. i acknowledge you have a right to exist. to ask israel to give up its attempts to control that territory without allowing-- without asking the palestinians to ensure that they'll treat israel as an equal partner in the peace, that's not only realistic, but it's dangerous. >> clayton: rabbi there's been criticism heaped on the obama administration in this regard. yesterday ambassador bolten saying we knew about this, we knew that president abbas was going to do this, we knew this a year ago. why did it have to come to this, do you agree with those sentiments? >> i think that it was a very difficult thing to head off in the sense that there was an intern

israeli-palestinian agreement. but when the u.n. general assembly opens this week, palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas says he will seek full membership, recognition of a palestinian state. that would not make palestine a statened borders, but it would give its officials more international recognition and the u.s. fears more power to go after israel for what palestinians consider crimes committed in the gaza strip. the white house has vowed to veto the bid in the security council insisting an independent palestinian state be developed through direct negotiations with israel. >>> up next, the israeli ambassador to the u.s. [ kristy ] my mom is well...weird. she won't eat eggs without hot sauce. she has kind of funny looking toes. she's always touching my hair. and she does this dancing finger thing. [ male announcer ] with advanced technology from ge, now doctors can diagnose diseases like breast cancer on a cellular level. so that women, like kristy's mom, can get personalized treatment that's as unique as she is. [ kristy ] she's definitely not like other moms. yeah, my mom is pretty weird. ♪ i tell you what i can spend. i do my best to make it work. i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on bra

israeli-palestinian agreement. but when the u.n. general assembly opens this week, palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas says he will seek full membership, recognition of a palestinian state. that would not make palestine a stateh defined borders, but it would give its officials more international recognition and the u.s. fears more power to go after israel for what palestinians consider crimes committed in the gaza strip. the white house has vowed to veto the bid in the security council, insisting an independent palestinian state be created through direct negotiations with israel. >>> up next, the palestinian ambassador to the u.s. and then the israeli ambassador to the u.s. [ grandma ] relationships are life... if you don't have that thing that fills your heart and your soul, you're missing that part of your life that just fulfills you. ♪ [ male announcer ] for us at humana, relationships matter too. the better we know you, the better we can help you choose the right medicare plan. that's why humana agents sit down with you to figure out your medicare options. and we have nurses you can call anytime, even at 3 a.m. because when you're on the right humana medicare plan and taking good care of yourself, then y

states should recognize palestine as independent state." host: we will hear from mike next in texas, an independent. good morning. caller: good morning. the u.n. that wan't it the u.n. established the israeli state, or authorized the israeli state? i do not see how, if the u.n. could do that for israel, why on earth we would fight the fact that they want to do that for the palestinians. maybe solve that conflict once and for all. host: there's another story in "the new york times" with this headline. it is a lengthy piece, if your interested in this issue and want to read more about it. that is "the new york times" front page. we want to give you more information. news on economy, bleeckeaker, in poll. on don't ask, don't tell, the policy that ended yesterday, here is "the washington times." "u.s.a today" has the story. you probably heard about a satellite dive on friday -- that is how "usa today" puts it. also on "washington journal" yesterday, we told you the fed was meeting yesterday. they meet again today. if you are interested in wanting to know what the fed might do, "the baltimore sun" has this story. "is their magic of the fed's sleeve?" house republicans have sent a letter to the federa

state of -- of the future of state of palestine. >> like i mentioned just a short time from now delegates will hear from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he'll have some of the same points to hit as the president, president obama has hit. he may hit them own more strongly. will you see that live here again. we expect that at any moment. >>> turning to our senior state department producer who is here with me. alise, what happens now? he's asking for statehood, he hand in the paperwork but how is this process expected to go? could go quickly but it could draw out for some time. >> it could. i think what president abbas is looking to do, get on a plane, go back to his people, claim victory that he went to the u.n. security council and also give this a little time to brew. everybody really dancing on a pin right mao for president abbas, he's looking to see what the international community can come up with to stop him from going back to the council and forcing that vote with the u.n. security council. now the middle east quartet, the u.s., european union, united nations and russia all trying to come up with terms for negotiations that the israelis and the palestinians can live with and perhaps get president abbas to walk it back, not really force that vote but certainly you saw what -- what you saw in the palestinian territories today, president abbas g

israeli prisons without delay. number two, the palestine liberation organization and the palestinian people adhere to the announcement of violence and rejection and condemnation of terrorism in all its forms, especially state terrorism, especially state terrorism and the terrorism by settlers. and we adhered to all agreements signed between the plo and israel. third, we adhere to the option of negotiating a lasting solution to the conflict in accordance with resolutions of international legitimacy. here i declared that the plo is ready to return immediately to the negotiating table on the basis of the adopted terms of reference based on international legitimacy and a complete cessation of settlement activity. fourth, our people will continue their popular peaceful resistance to the israeli occupation. we continue the popular peaceful resistance to the israeli occupation and its settlement and apartheid policy, and its construction of racist annexation wars. and they received support for the resistance which is consistent with international humanitarian law and international convention, and has the support of peace activists from israel and around the world. reflecting an impressive, inspiring and courageous example of the strength of

state. this will not change the occupation of palestine by the israelis, and it will just make -- if the united states does veto the security council, then they will not become a fully recognized member of the united nations, but they will become an unofficial recognized observer, and this would give them certain access to membership in international organizations, and it would be a step forward. i would not be in favor of this if the united states had put forward any sort of comprehensive peace proposal. as president obama has announced on two major occasions, one a freeze on all israeli settlements inside palestine, and also, based on the 1967 borders -- if the united states had put forward that proposal as a basis for negotiation, then both the palestinians and the carter center would be in favor of peace talks based on those two issues, but the israelis are not willing to accept those proposals, and president obama is not willing to make that effort. so as an alternative to a deadlock and a stalemate now, we reluctantly would support the palestinian move for recognition, at >> one final question. what can you and the carter center do to help educate the members of congress on working in developing countries with respect for individuals rather than going in with a heavy hand? >> practically nothing. [laughter] i don't think congress is receptive to any advice from the carter center. but i maintain a very close relationship to

state could of palestine. it is the same avenue the israelis took when israel was accepted as a political entity and that should be recognized. the inevitability is that united states will veto this effort. the palestinians now plan to take their effort to to the security council and to the general assembly. all members of the united nations will have a chance to vote. my guess is that the senate -- the palestinians will get 140 nations who will vote for their becoming a state. this will not change the occupation of palestine by the israelis. it will make the -- if they do a veto, they will not become a fully recognized a member of the united nations but it will become an observer if the general assembly votes. this will get them access to membership and it is a step forward. i would not be in favor of this if united states had put forward any comprehensive peace proposal as president obama has announced. one, a freeze on all is really settlements and also based on the 1967 borders. if they would put forward that proposal as a basis point of negotiation, both the palestinians and the carter center would be in favor of peace talks based on those issues. the israelis are not willing to accept those proposals and president obama is not willing to make that effort. as an alternative to the stalemate, we reluctantly would support the palestinian move for recognition in the general assembly. >> one final question, what can you in the carter center do to help educ

israeli occupation and create an independent state of their own. it is also an obligation of the internarnl community to admit palestine as a fully flenched united nations member state. the dprk recognized palestine as a state in 1998, and we support the mission and express conviction that the aspiration of the palestinian people will be translated into reality. mr. president, now in the dprk, the general march under the great leadership is in full swing. the dprk government is focusing all of the resources on economic development with the main emphasis on significantly improving the people's livelihood. it's achieving on remarkable success, the economic development of the dprk makes a meaningful contribution to the effortings of the international community to bring about regional development and attain the united nations development goals. in this context, stable and peaceful environment is a vital prerequisite for the dprk and its people today in their struggle for economic developments. we regret, however, that the korean peninsula does not enjoy lasting and stable peace mechanisms. the national division imposed by outside forces and the fragile without war or pe