israel seems to have learned that abbas, and the palestinian authority, the group we more commonly knew, they may be their biggest allies on the palestinian side. >> i think the moderates would agree with you. the people around benjamin netenyahu, who want a two-state solution, who want a durable peace with the palestinians would say that the president is the best ally, and hamas is the worst ally. so therefor the moderates say empower abbas, get the palestinian authority into gaza, use this moment after 30 days of very violent, very difficult war, use this moment to get the palestinian authority into gaza, but not everyone agrees, ali. you have righting wingers, and even though just a little bit to the right, who is arguing for destruction of hamas, who argue abbas is not a reliable partner. so therefore, we do see almost by default, this move towards strengthening the government and the palestinian authority aleast along the borders. the military wing of hamas essentially continues to run gaza, but the moderates would argue in israel, if you can get the palestinian authority along tho

the palestinian authority, mohammed abas's leadership to have the palestinian authority. they refused to deal with hamas directly and in their vision, the only partner they have for peace is the palestinian authority and west bank. >> appreciate the details. let's get the latest from wolf blitzer in jerusalem. what are you hearing about seize fire, wolf? >> reporter: they decided to go along with it. the defense minister, israeli officials say they did have the authority from the security cabinet to go ahead and accept this proposal and conveyed directly to the secretary of state john kerry and un secretary general. it's a very controversial decision, anderson, as you know, there are members of the security cabinet, including the foreign minister, others like bennett who will oppose the seize fire. they want israel to crush hamas as much as possible and not hold back. they not only want defensive measures like blowing up and destroying tunnels, but go on the offense and find hamas' infrastructure, find the rockets, go after them. this will be controversial. we'll see the

labels as a terrorist organization, and the palestinian authority. he very much wants, as the israelis do, as the egyptians do, to sort of control and contain and get rid of hamas as a governing authority in gaza and bring the palestinian authority into gaza as a negotiating partner. that would make the egyptians and the united states and israel much more comfortable. there are still hard negotiations. but the view if hamas is really running gaza not the palestinian authority, you have the extremists running gaza, not the moderates and it makes negotiations virtually impossible over time. >> isn't that the situation that we're in? hamas is running the gaza strip. they are -- we have this video, right? they are using -- putting rocket launchers in civilian areas around children, putting the palestinian authority, which welcomes a two-state solution, in the position of having to defend human shields. >> they're a terrorist group, erin. i think you're being a little overly surprised that the president of the united states said, quote, i have no sympathy

the palestinian authority, representative arm of the plo in the territories is regarded as the ideal moderate, the partnership piece which underscores the argument that shams another political player that got to be permitted to engage in the political conversation, a legitimate part of the palestinian people, elected legitimately in 2006, free and fair elections, alleviate ledges -- legislative elections. >> yes do you think that palestinians are more focused on getting services, getting schools built, having sustained water and power than they are with the politics absorbed with hamas? >> absolutely. and israel will try to use hamas as a scapegoat and deliberately trying to use it to dehumanize the palestinians. as somebody who was born in jerusalem and grew up in a village in the outskirts of northwest jerusalem can i can tell you how inhumane is the occupation. and bring that sense of the problem, and that springs the root of the problem. the problem here is the occupation. as someone lived under the military occupation i could tell you, how collective punishment that have been im

yes, i think the palestinian authority could benefit from this. there's a big difference between a symbolic presence over crossing points and a return of the palestinian authority to control gaza. >> the palestinian authority said that, today, on this show, they have said that, that hamas is one part of the palestinian authority, and the unity government, but it's, as i think you are employing. it's likely much more than what the pa folks are willing to admit. before we go, i want to play a sound byte by president obama, something he said in an interview about binyamin netanyahu, and his popularity in the wake of the war in gaza and it could be a mixed blessing. >> if he doesn't feel internal pressure, it's hard to see him making difficult compromises, including taking on the settler movement. that's a tough thing to do. with respect to mahmoud abbas it's a slightly different problem. in some ways he's too strong, mahmoud abbas is too weak to bring them together and make the bold decisions that seb at or regan or rab een were willing to make. >> d

is that a non-starter for hamas, a non-starter for the palestinian authority? >> absolutely. talk of demilitarization, the palestinians have said repeatedly that they will accept the demilitarized state once israel ends its military occupation. the palestinians have the right to defend themselves. they are the ones who are under occupation, not the israelis. they are the ones who are subjected to continuous israeli violations. and therefore, any talk about demilitarization, maybe israel should offer also to take certain good will gestures by saying once peace is achieved with the palestinians, we will also abandon our nuclear arsenal, and we will also abandon our offensive weapons. once peace is achieved, there is no reason for either party to be concerned about the other attacking them. but the end of the occupation is a key element. >> but as you know, liz say look, hamas itself does not accept the existence of the state of israel. so to say that there will be no concern, that really reasonable for the israelis to trust hamas? >> well, hamas is saying that while the israeli

iranian officials believe hamas and the palestinian authority would be implicated.hey predict mahmoud abbas may not take up the issue with the i.c.c. >>> let's talk to ben white, the author of two books on the israeli-palestine conflict and joins us from cambridge. if we look at the case of the i.c.c., how likely is it that the palestinian authorities will file a war-time charge against israel. >> i think the main problem to date in terms of palestinian authority reluctance to take the step needs to be seen as a whole. it's clear that anything this that direction would be seen as endangering negotiations. that process has been dead in the water for some time now and therefore it might be that the palestinian authority despiteses that ultimately those sorts of threats don't carry as much weight as they used to. >> does it have to come from the palestinian authority. there are plenty of other nations had the world who suggest that israel may have committed war crimes during this conflict. >> i mean, it's possible for his rail to face allegations or -- for israel to fa

now the hamas and the plo are part of the palestinian authority have joined together, in theory the palestinianauthority's are the overarching authorities. in practice that has not been the case. it has been amassing who has been controlling gaza for a couple of years. hamas who has been controlling gaza for a couple of years. that is why i say that part of this discussion will be how to bring the palestinian authority back into gaza and have control over what happens in gaza. even hamas to not be or to have complete control over the more radical islamic groups firing rockets. the palestinian authority need to be able to control hamas. >> what's interesting is whether there is, because it is so visible in terms of pictures that are coming out of gaza, and hospitals in civilians and is that having an impact in terms of what you sense worldwide of saying please do something about this? >> yes. attitudes in europe and my country are being affected by the scenes. too many civilians are being killed. 80% of those we were told today, 80% of those are civilians. more than 300 were killed. you cannot s

israel, but the fact is that hamas themselves as well, they now seek the consolation with the palestinian authorityresent everybody, and when i have a referendum, and i call for the recognition of the state of israel which is the plo recognized since 1988 and nothing new by the way, that i also include hamas, you have to bring them to the fold and they are not part of the plo, the palestinian liberation organization. >> >> rose: i want to ask other questions about what we aring is saying. is it possible that in a unity government that hamas would modify, as you just suggested,? is? is that the likelihood of hamas's participation with fatah? with the palestinian authority? >> absolutely. i mean -- >> rose: what modifications do you mean when you say that? >> well, basically, hamas has in its campaign has called for the destruction of israel, it refuses to recognize israel as a jewish state or as a state, that actually existed on what used to be palestine so basically, the plo now wanted to bring it, if it accepted to be a part of the plo it has to accept israel's right to exist. this is a fact. so i

nabil shaath is the former palestinian foreign minister, key adviser to the palestinian authority, presidentmoud abbas, and there's a palestinian negotiation led by the palestinian authority in cairo right now, including representatives from hamas, islamic jihad and all of the factions. an israeli delegation is now in cairo as well. a u.s. delegation on the way. we'll see what, if anything, cab be achieved. meanwhile, the cease-fire is holding. nabil, thank you very much for your reaction from what we heard from the prime minister of israel. >>> there's other news we're following, including this, russia, may be ready to pounce with tens of thousands of troops poised by the ukrainian border. russia now saying it wants clearance to advance for what it calls humanitarian reasons. we're going live to ukraine when we come back. from 2000 to 2011, on average 17 manufacturers a day shut down in america. there's no reason we can't manufacture in the united states. here at timbuk2, we make more than 70,000 custom bags a year, right here in san francisco. we knew we needed to grow internationally, we

i would say this with regard to the palestinian authority. , we have been hearing the palestinian authoritys horribly weakened as a result of the war. that it has been effectively irrelevant. i would also argue it is in the hamas.t to see a weekend the war has now provided the plo as the opportunity to retake the gaza strip or administer it in some way. given them an opportunity to go to the icc leon's what they had been considering already. they had been talking about this for several years. now they have something that perhaps looks closer to a war crime than settlements. this in some ways has been a .uest -- a gift i am not saying he wanted to see a war with so many casualties, etc. but he has kept to the non-violent house and has stayed out of this. he is seen by every actor on the world stage right now as the answer. i do not believe he actually is. i believe he is very autocratic. nevertheless he looks terrific relative to whom off -- to hamas. i think this has played into the strategy on some level. the hamas suicide bombing gets the fence. who knows what happens next. we are part of

>> yes. -- hamas and mass the palestinian authority have joined together. theory, the palestinian are the overarching authorities in gaza. in practice, that has not been the case. hamas has been controlling gaza for several years now. this discussion will be how to bring the palestinian authority back into gaza, and to have some control over what happens in gaza. even hamas does not appear to have complete control over the more radical islamic groups. the palestinian authority need to be owed to control hamas. what is interesting is whether there is -- because it's so visible, in terms of the pictures coming out, hospitals, children, civilians -- is that having an impact in terms of ? at you since world wide >> yes. attitudes in my country come united kingdom are being in fact it by the scenes we are seeing. about 1500 people killed on the palestinian side. are civilians. more than 300 children have been killed. there has been a terrible attack just a couple days ago on a school run by the united nations. you cannot sustain that stored -- that sort of confli

haveevacuated -- they acquiesced on this months before it began and are prepared to have the palestinian authority come back. >> i want to correct something i said earlier -- there is a palestinian delegation in cairo, right? >> that's right. >> israel is refusing at this point to participate in egypt and cairo? >> that's right. the egyptians are negotiating with the palestinian delegation. , hamasthere are no gaza members of that delegation, which is a problem. discussions of finding way to guarantee that they could be permitted to leave gaza in order to go to egypt. egypt will work with the palestinian delegation to work on a new modified cease-fire proposal that would be brought to israel, and israel has not commented on it publicly but they would review that offer. -- this latest breaking news, the attack on a construction excavator into an israeli bus monday, killing a pedestrian before he was shot and killed by a police officer -- police are calling it a terrorist attack, indicating they suspect palestinian involvement. do you know anything about this? you are in jerusalem. >> i was a couple

palestinian authorities foreign minister is willing to do so and they have clear evidence of war crimes, the i.c.c. headquarters set up to prosecute war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity. it exercises jurisdiction when national authorities are unwilling to prosecute. israeli officials believe an investigation would implicate hamas and the palestinian authority itself. >>> i speak to a senior fellow on palestine studies. what do you think? is it possible that israel could face war time charges at the i.c.c. it never seems to have been held to act for any of its operations before. >> i think that one. main reasons we see the hor ipic offensive against the gaza strip is because there has been no accountability for previous israeli offenses against the palestinians, and israel fools that it has international coverage to do these things. as far as your question is concerned, we need to separate it into two issues. is there a persuasive war chromes and crimes against humanity there the question is an unambiguous yes. the second is will is ril by prosecuted by the criminal court in

>> is it possible for hamas and fatah or the palestinian authority to form a palestinian government that not dedicated to the overthrow of israel and believe it is possible to live in a two state side-by-side solution? >> i believe that the solution to the airport for an israeli conflict has been staring us in the face since cap -- camp david back in 2000. camp david and the parameters that emerged out of the end of it. that is basically what you laid out. a two state solution on the lines of the 1967 borders. >> some definition of the right of return at work. >> the right of return will be to the west bank of gaza. it has been staring us in the face for well over 15 years. it is a question of political will. it is clear -- on both sides. >> to take the risk interest the other side but verify. >> it is increasingly clear that that political will will probably not generate from within the region. it will take the united states, a very tough series of negotiations to provide the political will. >> could it be aided by the arab league or some -- >> there are a lot of people who could help.

hamas understands their is no chance to open the border in gaza without a role for the palestinian authority. at the same time, the palestinian has been desperately keen for a role in gaza and mahmoud abbas has been trying to reassert his relevance in things related to gaza. there is a win-win situation in terms of the relevance of both sides. hamas' position now is very firmly embedded into the palestinian landscape. in a way that a month ago it was not. it was much more precarious. like that of the muslim brotherhood in egypt. now, they are, you have got this broader palestinian safety net around hamas that has cushioned it. >> perhaps that presents an opportunity for later negotiations, if later negotiations are an option. with that, we should take a look at the israeli side of the equation. if we look at the israeli position three weeks ago and the way the cease-fire came about, it seems as though the israeli government got everything it said it wanted. an opportunity to go and destroy the tunnel networks on the ground. it got a degradation of hamas' rocket capability. now, it was able t

>> yes, the palestinian authority are involved. because now that hamas and fatah the sort of plo part of the palestinian authority have joined together in a joint government. in theory, at least, the palestinian authority are the overarching authority in gaza n practice that haents been the case. it's been hamas who have been controlling gaza for several years now. so that's why i say that part of that discussion will be how to bring the palestinian authority back into gaza and to have some control over what happens in gaza. even hamas do not appear to have complete control over some of the more radical islamic groups that are firing rockets. you but equally the palestinian authority need to be able to control hamas. >> what's interesting too is whether there is, because it's so visible in terms of the pictures that are coming out of gaza and hospitals and children and civilians, is that having an impact in terms of what you sense worldwide of saying please, do something about this? >> yes, there's no doubt that attitudes in europe

we have consultation with the palestinian authority, we succeeded now, one paper, one vision, and we are succeeded now to send it to the egyptian side and there egyptian authority they accepted our demands and they said we are going to defend your position and also to discuss with the israeli side in order to convince them to ep .the palestinian demands. i expect we will have a hard negotiation on the side because focus on top demands like disarm gaza and to take the weapons away from the palestinian faction but we will see. we still see that gaza is under occupation and it is our right to fight against occupation. they should not mention any point, gaza the openness of the palestinian factions. >> on the other hand, rony sable, former advisor to israel's former ministry says israel is not occupying gaza. international officials have got it all wrong that israel is a occupying force. >> we do have control of the air space. the manual requires, quote, boots on the ground. there are no israeli boots on the ground. we have no interest at being there. and if you look at what happened in

he should've negotiated with the palestinian authority in which the palestinian authority got creditor this. by doing it unilaterally -- >> he didn't want to wait. >> he didn't like the palestinian authority. >> what is going to happen in gaza? >> it will get worse before it gets -- >> how much worse? >> it could mean israel preoccupies the gaza strip. they may never say the are doing that. if the israeli defense forces stay where they are today, they will be occupying about half of the gaza strip. >> they believed they had to do that because they want to wipe out hamas once and for all? blacks what they said -- >> what they say is that it want -- they want to illuminate the tunnels. they would like to see hamas collapsed but that is dangerous as well because who will take its place? >> is it impossible for hamas and the palestinian authority to form a palestinian government that is not dedicated to the overthrow of israel and believes they could live in a two state solution? >> i believe at the end of the day, the solutions for the conflict has been staring us in the face since camp

the israelis have seen the palestinian authority has quite reliable.uld give a victory to egypt, mutual position, the aged is well-positioned in this regard. backing down somewhat from a very staunch israeli position. of course even just today or yesterday the prime minister of criticizing this ibm. we cannot trust. today we saw the israeli public was split down the middle. 45 percent for success. it's quite high. israeli position, being very cautious. not going after the exchange right away. the flip side of that on the critical site, and a sense the tunnels were not the goal. yet they wanted a cease-fire. they tried to get one before. and the towels were not the main goal. this assistance and. it's conditions were met. but from the israeli perspective they were wrong. very cautious. they were also suggesting something wrong about how they approach this whole thing. that is a dramatic change in position and will really draft along. >> and i think your description of how the government viewed this longstanding standoff with hamas and the dilemma reinfo

thell say with regard to palestinian authority/plo calculus, in some sense, we have been hearing the palestinian akened.ty is horribly weeken it's effectively irrelevant. i would argue it is in the interest of the plo to see a weeakened hamas. to retake the gaza strip or its borders. them anas given opportunity to go to the icc beyond what they had been considering already. they had been talking about settlements. something that looks closer to a war crime than settlements. in some ways, it has been a gift. but this laid right into his hand. he still looks like amanda has kept to his nonviolent bows. is seen by every actor on the world stage right now as the answer. i don't believe he is. i think he is autocratic. but he looks terrific relative thomas. will he be able to capitalize on it? i'm not sure the icc is the way to do it. as for your question, the episodic wars, we have seen this over time. hamas suicide bombings began that the gets rockets which begets a ground war. who knows what happens next? cycle whereof a every couple of years, this pops up. the bottom line is that there

the palestinian authority is the authority on the west bank.eople of gaza want, and given what the israelis want, the only way to achieve it is going to be if the palestinian authority is allowed back into gaza. >> how do you think that, i don't know if you call it a power struggle it is within kind of the palestinian authority and the national coalition government that has been formed, who is the chief negotiator? who is israel negotiating with here? is it the pal spinauthority? is it mahmoud abbas or is it the leaders of hamas? >> it is a delegation that has been put together under the authority of president abbas, under the authority of the unity government, which is going to be a technocratic government. so it is really a delegation that is headed by president abbas, as head of the plo, and as head of the palestinian authority, and that's how it should be. >> it is a little striking, though, some are suggesting that secretary kerry and the obama administration have been sidelined when it comes to these talks in cairo. the president said joh

hamas themselves, they seek consultation with the palestinian authority. is important for the palestinians poured -- post indians. -- it is important for the palestinians. it is important that whatever the president calls for, it includes hamas. >> let me stay with that point. i have a couple of other points i want to raise. is it possible that in a unity government, hamas would modify? is that the likelihood of hama'' as they should -- hamas's participation with fatah? >> hamas has called for the destruction of israel. it refused to recognize israel. if it wants to be part of the plo, it has to accept israel's right to exist. if they managed to do that, it will help bring them into the fold. they can negotiate with one voice. >> many people have been very quick to cite the charter of the hamas party. very few people can also cite any language from any charter of israeli parties. the reality is the likud party, the party of the prime minister, flatly rejects the existence of a palestinian state anywhere west of the jordan. there are plenty of parties to th

we will -- we will monitor -- we will be monitoring that speech by the palestinian authority president, and we'll bring you any and all of the important lines that he will be speaking of. andrew simmons is now joining us from gaza. so we were expecting the authority -- the palestinian authority president, unfortunately we're just having some technical glitches, andrew, but he had been in cairo the last few days? >> as far as abbas is concerned, he had -- had planned to make an announcement of this whole break through, had wanted to, it would appear, we understand from our sources. hamas on the other hand had been quite determined that the whole thing should come from the egyptian end, and in fact effectively it would appear there was a rush to get this news out and mention it first. now as far as abbas is concerned, he has a series of measures to announce. it isn't only this break through, but other political initiatives he wants to engage in as well. so i think you can expect there to be a fairly forceful speech -- it's a shame we can't hear it right now -- but a fairly forceful layou

. >> so that was the palestinian authority president abbas giving a brief statement on the ceasefire deal that we know now has been reached between israel and hamas. andrew simmons is joining us from gaza. while abbas was speaking, we were looking at people in gaza celebrating the announcement of the ceasefire. and abbas did speak about the reconstruction of gaza, and rebuilding gaza, and bringing material in. >> yes, very much so. i mean that just before we get into that doreen, the -- this issue -- vexed issue of when this ceasefire takes effect. there has been a lot of confusion about it. hamas says that it is in place now and started approximately 14 minutes ago, and that coincided within the last few seconds before the top of the hour there was the iron dome being used to intercept a number of rockets, at least three fired right before the top of the hour. and after that, we have now been seeing the hamas fighters all over the city, particularly at a point where a surprise announcement was kept very closely guarded secret that this statement was going to be made, and it was made

simple question is moving forward now, would prime minister netanyahu be prepared to let the palestinian authorityza as the governing authority to empower it and its moderate members as a way of replacing hamas, even though that would mean accepting the hamas/fatah unity agreement? >> that's an excellent question. let me show you what the dilemma and opportunity is. the dilemma is -- this has happened when abbas made his deal with hamas. we wanted to know whether that would lead to hamas becoming more moderate, willing to go along with diplomatic option and what, of course, happened is right afterwards, we had the attack on those three israeli teenagers who were killed by hamas and then the escalation of rocket fire. so it didn't seem that the agreement was moving hamas in a better direction. we have also seen, as i'm sure you're aware, iran has improved its relaegs with hamas. if you look at the recent communications between the two, it seems they are moving back in the direction of hamas. so the question is can the palestinian authority play a more positive role? one of the things that everybody

hamas understands their is no chance to open the border in gaza without a role for the palestinian authority. at the same time, the palestinian has been desperately keen for a role in gaza and mahmoud abbas has been trying to reassert his relevance in things related to gaza. there is a win-win situation in terms of the relevance of both sides. hamas' position now is very firmly embedded into the palestinian landscape. in a way that a month ago it was not. it was much more precarious. like that of the muslim brotherhood in egypt. now, they are, you have got this broader palestinian safety net around hamas that has cushioned it. >> perhaps that presents an opportunity for later negotiations, if later negotiations are an option. with that, we should take a look at the israeli side of the equation. if we look at the israeli position three weeks ago and the way the cease-fire came about, it seems as though the israeli government got everything it said it wanted. it got an opportunity to go and destroy the tunnel networks on the ground. it got a degradation of hamas' rocket capability. now, it was

something we cannot accept. >> hamas is one of the parties to end the war and israel and palestinian authorities have to agree. this deal is probably going to be agreed to by hamas or at least some of the palestinian factions. right now, israel officials are the once pushing against it, trying to get more out of the deal. it's not clear, even though we only have 10 hours left, what's going to happen tonight. >> nick, thank you very much. >> stephanie, with that ceasefire in place, gasses are going back to what it left of their homes. >> most of looking at a long road to rebuilding their homes and lives. we have the story. >> on july 27, this family was at home when israeli soldiers started bulldozing it. there's nothing left of it now. the war was raging around. as they fled, the family was shot at. he was captured and taken to israel. >> they didn't have enough information. they needed more. they were asking me about hamas, the location of families and rocket launchers. they wanted to know who in this area was from hamas, who was in charge. >> he lives in a farming village on the edge of gaza.

the palestinian authority should be inserted but not only the palestinian authority.as willty is that find ways to course or intimidate that presence. so i think one thing that needs to be done is to focus on who is there, if for no other reason not to create an alternative in terms of wherewithal but at least to create the terms and inhibit hamas in terms of threat they make against the presence. i would like to see the moroccans, jordanians and europeans also established presence. to be courtededs native i think with the egyptians as well. that is a near-term approach. i think it is very important the administration as soon the mantle of organizing a massive -- four plans or gaza gaza. it should be organized or not implemented unless hamas is prepared to disarm. some people say they will not disarm. that is their choice. abilitye clear that the not just to rebuild gaza but to -- is available and if hamas chooses to block that is pursuit of continuing resistance of fighting over then development of palestinians. i would also note what i am saying is not just an argum

>> i'm talking about human rights groups in gaza which are working with hamas and palestinian authority sources in order to find those numbers. how do they get those numbers in the first place? you heard the fellow from the u.n. say a while ago they are working with palestinian and israeli sources. the palestinian sources they are working with on the ground in the gaza strip are in large part palestinian authority or islamic jihad who have a great interest in ensuring that the american people and the rest of the world believe that a huge number of civilians have been killed. its same reason why they're putting civilians in front of rockets on a regular basis. >> peter, if i could jump in, i just wanted to ask, i'm interested in your thoughts on this debate about who is responsible. for the deaths of these innocent palestinians. obviously, israel carrying out the military campaign. some individuals, some critics saying it's disproportionate, not as accurate as it could be. then you do have evidence that hamas, or at least militants in gaza are firing from population centers, firing from

is it impossible for hamas and the palestinian authority to form a palestinian government that is not dedicated to the over throw of i see real and believe it is possible to live in a two stateside by side solution? >> i believe that at the end of the day, the solution to the arab israeli conflict has been staring us in the face since camp david back in 20thousand. >> rose: bill clinton's -- >> bill clinton's and the clinton parameters that emerged out of the end of it. and that is .. basically what you have laid out, a two-state solution, along the lines of the 1967 borders. >> rose:. >> and some minor jams. >> rose: some definition of right of return at work. >> right. the right of return will be primarily to the west bank of gaza. it has been staring us in the face now for well over 15 years. it is a question of political will. it is increasingly clear -- >> rose: on both sides. >> >> rose: to take the risk and take the other, take the risk and trust the other side but verify? >> it is increasingly clear to me that political will will probably not generate from generate from within

hamas and abbas' party joined in a reconciliation pact that led to the establishment of a palestinian authority government that was supposed to take responsibility in gaza. the hamas ministers in gaza resigned for that purpose. so within palestinian politics, legitimacy exists for him to take control in gaza. that's a very necessary thing to get behind, to have the humanitarian assistance and reconstruction go through the palestinian authority, do have the palestinian authority take control of the passages and hopefully over time to be able to establish its control there. >> all right. martin indyk, now at brookings, i appreciate your perspective. thank you very much. >>> before the break, today's quick tdr 50 trivia question. we're going to be in tennessee this week so all of our trivia questions will be tennessee focused. former presidents have called tennessee their home state, how many of them? there are three. name the three. the first person to tweet the correct answer will get the on-air shoutout. the answer and more is coming up on tdr. (male announcer) it's happening. today, more and m

of the palestinian authority would then have a free hand to sign any agreement that the u.s. government proposed to. the palestinian authority are basically collaborators not basically they are collaborators they still have the problem of the more militant resistance namely hamas but the hope was is if israel disabled hamas then the palestinian collaborators the palestinian authority would then have a free hand to basically surrender to israel and sign to carry for proposal and of course it all kind of stems back to the hamas election i mean according to a two thousand a wiki leaks cable after hamas was elected israel's official policy was to keep gaza connally on the brink of collapse and functioning at the lowest level possible consistent with avoiding a humanitarian crisis i want to get your opinion on why israel wants to keep gaza from having any chance of economic development and also nothing meds analysis that that they have solved is the take over gaza's natural gas reserves that could amount to four billion dollars just here. you know i don't think you know you know p