long story short, by 2006, the palestinian authority called for election. hamas runs in the election. they are smart, realizing the palestinian public was still scarred, did not want terror platform. they never announced terror. rather they use the vulnerability, corruption, poor governance, etc., and they won the elections. in the years that ensued there was tension between palestinians and hamas. in 2007, hamas took over, and has been the governing authority. my colleagues talked about that period, very interesting period. hamas used it for a number of objectives. part of the objectives, terror buildup. there was also a political objective. hamas on the idea of governing territory as a vehicle to release itself into the international discourse. look, we are governing, we are moderating. dealing with us as a legitimate authority. in doing this, they were supported by some of the regional supporters. we talk about iran being a regional supporter, and that is true. but hamas has other supporters that support the muslim brotherhood, qatar and turkey. they were

before taking any stance in this regard, because the whole position of the palestinian authority is totally rejected by the palestinian people, this attitude of the palestinian authority to try to have any comproisation, compromisation with the israel incubation. top of the palestinian people or at the expense of the palestinian rise is totally rejected by the palestinian people. today the israeli occupation over over the over decades actually proved for many times that there is no no way to have any kind of solution with the israelition and the israelition deals with any kind of any negotiations with any kind of any agreements with the palestinian authority as matter of of. gaining more time to entrench the occupation of the palestinian land, today the first thing that the palestinian authority to do is to stop its security coordination that helps actually the israeli occupation to to to attack the palestinian resistance in the west bank, and we we do believe that if there is no security coordination between the palestinian authority and the israeli incubation, the situation as a wh

the palestinian authority is extremely weak today. it is weak because of its own domestic behavior. corruption, poor governance, lack of political oversight have created a situation where most palestinians look at the palestinian authority as a liability, not an asset. for hamas, this creates an opening to create a vacuum then fill the vacuum. i will conclude maybe with a couple of policy recommendations to u.s. policy. it is too early in the game to talk about very specific policy recommendations, yet i would keep two things in mind as we approach the next two weeks. no matter how this war ends, and we don't know how it will end, however the war ends we have to make sure that hamas does not end up being able to demonstrate any win from its use of terror. there were instances in the past where previous administrations were willing to consider cease-fires that would have given hamas certain benefits. i think it's key that we make sure we do not do this. part of this is to make sure that when various mediators come in, we open to allies in the region that agree with our objectives and

the palestinian authority is deeply unpopular by many palestinian civilians.say it is unable to stop the israeli occupation. they are registering their descent over israel. in that context we have seen the palestinian president saying he will not meet joe biden after his visit to israel. what that does is on the eve of the u.s. president's vit, it shows you that the crisis in this region is already escalating. caitriona: how does it further complicate joe biden's trip given what you are seeing? is there any expectation that he will try and call for a cease-fire, for example? tom: i don't know about that. but to have an event of massive civilian casualties in a single event like this is obviously going to create a challenge, and a very big challenge for president biden when he comes. because i think that will dominate the discussion over the crisis over the coming hours. there will be a lot of discussion about calls for evidence to back up the claims around the cause of this. atmosphere. it mak it much harder. and he definitely needs the support and the coordin

continued progres in the talks on this matter. as soon as the non-resident saudi ambassador to the palestinian authority arrived in the palestinian territories to reassure the palestinians about the kingdom's position on the palestinian right and to visit the aqsa mosk, announcements wered in about visits by israeli entity ministers and leaders in the kineset to the kingdom of saudi arabia, starting with the arrival of the minister of tourism. the zionist haim hats visit. rad on thursday september 19 in the first public visit to the kingdom by an official at this level, and these visits in both directions are considered a quick translation of what the saudi prince had announced about continued progres in the normalization talks with the zionist entity, which are taking place within a traper tite framework. after the news of the visit made by the zinest regime minister of tourism to the kingdom of saudi arabia, saudi, social media users widely criticized the strip with several hashtags, including we not. accept normalization, no to normalization, and normalization is treason. where does palestine fit in

it is important _ palestinian authority. it is important to _ palestinian authority.nt to separate - palestinian authority. it is important to separate the atrocity of what _ important to separate the atrocity of what happened at the weekend at the hands _ of what happened at the weekend at the hands of hamas from the perfectly legitimate aspiration of palestinian people for two states, which _ palestinian people for two states, which has — palestinian people for two states, which has been endorsed by our government, the united states covenant— government, the united states covenant and the un, and i think antony— covenant and the un, and i think antony blinken going to see the palestinian authority is to draw a distinction — palestinian authority is to draw a distinction away from the terror group _ distinction away from the terror group hamas and to try and give some authority— group hamas and to try and give some authority back to the palestinian authority, though it has been much weakened _ authority, though it has been much weakened in recent years. and authority

the palestinian health authority has said so far, it believes up to 370 palestinians have been killedthe air strikes by the israeli defence forces since yesterday. a further 1800 to 2,000 people known to have been injured according to the palestinian health authority and are being treated in various areas for the injuries. retaliatory israeli air strikes are set to continue. the israeli government has said that it will be coming down on the hamas militants in gaza city with its full force. we will bring you more on that as and when we get it. but let's talk more about what happened on the other side. dozens of israelis have been taken hostage by hamas militants, others were shot dead by those militants who breach the gaza border into villages in southern israel. here's the story of one woman who was at a festival when it was interrupted by gunfire. they were just next to us, all over the place with automatic weapons. i was staying and then i was running out and i saw two policemen at the festival. so we had policemen in the festival, they were standing next to the cars, starting to sh

palestinian authority the west bank, and with a declining amount of authority, you might say, mahmoudfailed to represent the voices of the palestinians altogether. so it is likely to see a change in leadership in the palestinian authority in the aftermath of what has happened now. what would that change of leadership look like? around the world we see ageing leaders, in israel as well, somebody who has been on the political scene for a long time. is there any succession planning, anybody who wants to move towards peace? unfortunately not. this has been a very contentious issue within the palestinian authority and more generally within palestine. there is no clear successor. again this is something that hamas will take advantage of politically. a lot of what is happening today can actually be to the political advantage of hamas. there is a lot of notjust simmering anger but outbursts of anger, we have seen it in the growing confrontation between very radical jewish settlers in the northern west bank but also there was anger against the palestinian authority and the leadership of mahmou

. >> the fundamental reason hamas has gained strength is that the palestinian authority, which is their competition, has been seen as fekless, corrupt, and unable to deliver on its core promise, which was a palestinian state. >> reporter: but to the west hamas was not a negotiating partner. instead, it became a threat. in 1997 the u.s. officially designated hamas a foreign terrorist organization. >> if you protest nonviolently and so on you are shot at. you are imprisoned. and so they left only one avenue actually, which is armed resistance. >> hamas has decided that it is going to use violence. it is going to use violence against civilians. it is going to be brutal. >> reporter: over the next decade hamas continued its violence and it would meet more violence in return. >>> will they go home with a deal? the latest from camp david. >> this wooded maryland retreat of u.s. presidents, camp david, was the site of a potentially historic summit in the summer of 2000. >> you had yasser arafat the legendary leader of the palestinian liberation organization who had a lot of credibility with pa

see, palestinian authority. let's hear from daniel taub, who served as israeli ambassador to the uk from 2011 to 2015. he joins me from tel aviv. and thank you so much for making the time for us today , making the time for us today, and i hope you're staying safe there in israel. first of all, do you have a message for the british people this morning from israel and perhaps particularly for the jewish community in the united kingdom ? united kingdom? >> hi, tom. good to be with you. just to clarify, i'm speaking to you from jerusalem, not from tel aviv, just down the road. just down the road. um i think my message to the jewish community and to the general british population is actually the same message we are going through one of the darkest times that israel has had, but one of the one of the points of light is the absolute moral clarity that we are seeing from our friends and leaders throughout europe , the leaders throughout europe, the united states and so on. um, there's a tremendous amount, a tremendous a

none of this is good for the palestinian authority. his imaginal authority in the terms of this.the west bank, doesn't escalate to lebanon, iran who is the back of both the lebanese militants of his brother, there is a realfear international community that it could second other players. i international community that it could second other players. i think we have time _ could second other players. i think we have time for— could second other players. i think we have time forjust _ could second other players. i think we have time forjust one - could second other players. i think we have time forjust one more . we have time forjust one more briefly, another trending question, why are somejewish briefly, another trending question, why are some jewish schools closed in the united kingdom? figs why are some jewish schools closed in the united kingdom?— in the united kingdom? as far as i know, in the united kingdom? as far as i know. there _ in the united kingdom? as far as i know, there are _ in the united kingdom? as far as i know, there are four _ in the united kingdom? as far as i k

atrocities, but this is a separate story, this is for historians, yes, that's it - they pay the palestinian authorityh, that is, to the family of the terrorist who killed almost 3,000 dollars, that is, it is about 12, well, almost 12,000 shekels monthly, this is huge money for the palestinians, so that you understand, that is, the minimum salary of a palestinian, which works in israel , it corresponds to the minimum salary of an israeli, an israeli citizen, it is somewhere between 5,000 and 5,500 shekels, well, according to today's exchange rate, it is somewhere around 1,300 dollars, and the palestinian authority pays for the murder of a jew every month 3,000 dollars, plus there are rates, that is, the price tag that the autonomy and mahmud abas refuses to cancel, this is the price tag for killing jews, killed jews, received 3,000 , wounded jews, received 1,000, threw a bottle of incendiary mixture at a soldier somewhere in the area of ​​some settlement, too received, and even donald trump, being the president of the usa. could not cancel it, there was pressure on the autonomy, they could not cancel

the palestinian authorities is not in a position to respond to israel. there has been, what? nine months now a clashes between israelis and palestinians. between israel and the west bank. >> that has been such a terrible situation which has really brought a lot of tension for president biden here. that was one of the things he was talk to netanyahu about at the you in just a few weeks ago. any normalization with saudi arabia has to take care of the palestinians. there was some concern in some circles that the saudis were so eager for the economic benefits that this would bring to their country, you know that they have frequent contacts behind the scenes that are not acknowledge by several countries, the full diplomatic relationship would be very difficult. there has been some concern that the saudi leader is not nearly as committed to the palestinian cause, and protecting the palestinians, entering into this negotiation as some of his contemporaries. king of della, then the 1990s in the early 2000s, made it a cardinal rule. the palestinians had to be part of any solution. pale

to the palestinian authority, to the palestinian authority, you know, well, it is precisely from the palestinian authority that this issue must be resolved, but it is necessary to look for new approaches, because - the palestinian authority has been living on humanitarian aid for decades, there is no work there, there is no na na no in the west bank, bank, jordan, or in gaza, there is no real work there, they go to work in israel, they are dependent on israel, israel is dependent on them, and therefore, therefore, it is necessary you have to look for some, of course, you have to look for some pragmatic solutions that could allow... them to just live normally, because when you have a bunch of people who don't work, who have nowhere to work, who are used to being constantly they give, they give something, they live on humanitarian aid, their parents lived on humanitarian aid, i say this since 1949, this, bapor, is an agency for aid to palestinian refugees, uh, that is, it is there.. people who were born when there was already humanitarian aid and died, so, we need to create some other

run can you explain to our viewer the, the in truck palestinian politics here because the palestinian authority, they are the ones running to an extent the occupied westbank where you are, they are the ones who represent palestinians again, to an extent on the international stage. we saw them speaking of the united nations, but they're not the ones who triggered this the who, who commenced this uh, this latest round of fighting and how is that working and what is the palestinian authority? how are they being able to put their stamp on this? it was a palestinian authors who was set up after the low codes in 1993. it was designed to unify all of the different policy new infections. i can give everybody the international community. i would single entity to speak to, but then uh, the withdrawal these ready withdrawal, the occupation of gauze that happened and a mess took over. that was 15 years ago. they've been in charge it for 15 years. the rich of the palestinian authority simply does work in the gaza strip. it's a mass to all the power that but the international community still has to speak to

as soon as the non-resident saudi ambassador to the palestinian authority naiif arrived in the palestinian territories to reassure the palestinians about the kingdom's position on the palestinian right and to visit the al-aqsa mosk, announcements poured in about visits by israeli entity ministers and leaders in the econocit to the kingdom of saudi arabia, starting with. the arrival of the minister of tourism. the zionist hayim kats visited riad on thursday september 19 in the first public visit to the kingdom by an official at this level, and these visits in both directions are considered a quick translation of what the saudi prince had announced about continued progres in the normalization talks with the zionist entity, which are taking place within a trapertite framework. after the news of the visit made by the zinest regime minister of tourism to the kingdom of saudi arabia, saudi social media user. widely criticized the strip with several hashtags including we do not accept normalization, no to normalization, and normalization is treason. where does palestine fit in all of this? well,

for muhammad bin salman to finance the palestinian authority, which today is known to be nothing more than security apparatus in the hands of the israeli entity to stab the entifada and the palestinian people. in the side and back, then he will have presented himself and saudi arabia on the altar of the ultimate battle and will have joined the ranks of the losing forces. definitely, definitely. well, just leave it in the hands of the resistance and it will take care of it. that's what i believe in, and millions of uh muslims and free people of the world do. i want to thank you very much mr. political commentator for joining us to discuss the imminent saudi israeli entity normalization. now ladies and gents, please stay tuned because... next we will talk about how the resistance in gaza is snatching its rights from the mouth of the zionists. now after long discussions conducted by mediators between the hamas resistance movement in the gaza strip and the israeli entity, the latter yielded to the palestinian demands regarding non-escalation in the al-aqsa mosk and a return to previous so

if you look at the palestinian authority on one side, the purpose of the national compact, we have a flict with the palestinians, but -- their allegiance, the interest of those on both sides, between israel and the palestinians, is to take a mass out of this equation. there is no -- and this is something that needs to be clear. >> the problem, isn't joe biden alluded to this the other day. that is america and afghanistan after 9/11. let's take you at your word, that's there is no peace with hamas. vacuums don't work, right? so in the, and what happens next? because as you and i discussed one week ago, there has been an effort for a long time to diminish the importance and effectiveness of the palestinian authority as a negotiating partner for israel, but that, is that viable again? what happens? you get rid of hamas and you have a whole bunch of people -- >> i want to be honest. a recent debate within israel, the two states where two people, it's feasible or acceptable. this is something that they need to decide. hamas is an obstacle. not because i say so, we don't need to learn the l

first of all, i must say that i am not a member of the palestinian authority. i am the representative of mossom democratic movement on the palestinian national initiative. which is neither affiliated with hamas nor fatah. but i think this situation that has emerged is the direct result of the longest continuity in modern history. israel's occupation of palestine has turned into an apartheid system. apartheid is much worse than what prevailed in south africa. hamas may not have recognized israel, but the palestinian authority and the palestinian resistance did. but what do you get in return? none since 2014, israeli governments have not even met with the palestinians, and what you see today is the reaction there are a few things: first of all, the terrorist attacks by the settlers on the palestinians in the west bank, which in an act of ethnic cleansing, have so far caused the expulsion of the palestinians from 20 areas , including 40 children, who were killed by the israeli army and the settlers in the west bank. bakhtri were killed. the attacks of israeli extre

maybe hamas it did not recognize israel, but the palestinian authority and the palestinian resistance did so, but in return for what they received, since 2014, the israeli governments did not even meet with the palestinians, and what you see today is the reaction to, first of all, the terrorist attacks of the settlers. to the palestinians in the west bank, which has resulted in the expulsion of palestinians from 20 areas in an act of ethnic cleansing. 2,348 palestinians, including 40 children, were killed by the israeli army and settlers in the west bank. the attacks of israeli extremists on the holy places of muslims and christians and also, netanyahu's statement that by normalizing relations with arab countries , he will destroy the rights and ideals of palestinians. he even dared to go to the united nations and take a map of israel with him there, which includes the west bank, the whole of gaza, the whole of jerusalem and the golan heights. he announced that he will annex the occupied territories to israel . with this description, it is clear that the palestinians are resisting. be

the day came, it was already after the death of yasser arafat, when the current head of the palestinian authority bank, jordan mahmoud , became his heir abaas, when hamas bypassed fatah, not only in... the sympathy of the palestinian street, but also in the parliamentary elections. the problem was that hamas was much more radical than fatah. and that was one thing when it was small a religious group of people, and it's a completely different matter when it was a party that enjoys the support of the majority of the population in both parts of the palestinian authority, israel, which, as we spoke at the beginning, has already implemented its policy of withdrawing its forces from the sector. turned out to be completely helpless from the point of view of the gas sector's ability to deploy its terrorist infrastructure on the territory of this sector. the joint, i would say, efforts of the israelis and mr., who already needed each other, prevented the creation of a hamas government in the western on the banks of the jordan river, but in gaza everything turned out as the hamas wanted, and here it turned

that is the sense the palestinians, hamas, the palestinian authority to an extent and the generation being heard in terms of what happens to theirfuture. longer being heard in terms of what happens to their future. they have seen the abraham accords take place with several arab countries under president trump first and now president trump first and now president biden is moving towards that, was moving towards that potentially with saudi arabia which would be a major shift within the region. and they felt they have been sidelined and essentially, for a long time, they were the central issue, if not always in reality, but suddenly rhetorically and certainly on the street amongst the people in the arab world, if not always with their governments. their governments may have meld off than they were supporting the palestinians and will go to the very end for them and maybe they never really meant that. but i think the feeling still amongst the majority of people in the arab world still is that. so i think part of what would have motivated hamas is this sense they wanted to change the equa

but it's clear that there wasn't certainly an effort to build up the palestinian authority on the part of the prime minister and at times an effort to kind of undermine them and humiliate them. at the same time, hamas was involved in some negotiations, over 1,000 palestinian prisoners were released in exchange for an israeli soldier taken by hamas. that in some ways bolstered their standing. but look, all that is past and the question is going forward, there is a question of what is the end goal of this operation if it goes forward? is it to displace 2 million people from gaza or a significant chunk of people from gaza and create another permanent class of palestinian refugees in ways that are changing the demographics in what i think some israelis would refer to as greater israel, as a means of putting a two-state solution out of reach? or is the outcome that is sought an alternative palestinian leadership on the other end of this? one that is not hamas? absolutely, but that is either a strengthened palestinian authority or something different, perhaps drawing on the resources from th

what do you do not hear and what you have not heard much from is the palestinian authority. ahmoud abbas has called for a de-escalation. he says that palestinians have a right to defend themselves. but as you and i have discussed many times, in this occupation, the palestinian authority has certainly in, recent years, been less than effective. >> yes, absolutely. what he says at this point is largely irrelevant. he has not been in control of gaza for quite a long period of time and i don't see that he will be in charge of gaza for this foreseeable future. so, i think the bigger issue is, what is going to be done next? at this point, we know that israel is holding on to hundreds of palestinian bodies. these are people who will killed and israel refuses to allow them to be buried. we know that they're holding on to hundreds of palestinians in prison and i suspect that we're going to start seeing demands for prisoner exchanges and so on, and so forth. but the bigger issue is, israel is going to win the air for this as they learned in 1973? and is it instead continuing this occup

marching towards the presidential compound in romallah and it seems that uh soldiers from the palestinian authorityg and to reach and protest outside the presidential compound of ramal. palestinians today are angry. those people taking part in the protest they are demanding immediate reaction from the palestinian authority. first they were. president abbas to return back to to the occupied territories and not to meet with any of the us officials and were demanding that at the end of the day the the the authority, the palestinian government must take a reaction because they are saying if the israels continued their crimes and their they carried out a ground operation in the ghaza strip then they will continue to impose more facts on ground here in the occupied west bank as well so palestinians have the right to defend themselves have the right to fight back and that's why the people were angry and frustrated to be honest with you from the reactions, i wonder if that car is trying to hit some people, it's trying to run some people over, just driving into the crowds of rallyers, but it seems to be bel

and there is a difference between the palestinian authority, which is the legitimate, legitimate representative a two state solution, who have condemned violence all along the question is, can israel stop state terrorism on equal basis ? yes. equal basis? yes. >> now, of course, of course , i >> now, of course, of course, i did question the former israeli ambassador at length in terms of what would be a proportionate response and whether it was right or not to be cutting off water or indeed electricity. i asked him detailed questions. there i know you haven't responded to the question in terms of whether or not this should be condemned as a terrorist attack. the actions of hamas two weeks ago , violence hamas two weeks ago, violence breeds violence and the situation in gaza was on a powder keg. >> and what happened basically is a retaliation on the daily atrocities that the israelis with the settlers are committing against our innocent civilians in the west bank in jerusalem , in the west bank in jerusalem, in the west bank in jerusalem, in gaza and what have you. so you want me to condemn viol

yes, maybe hamas did not recognize israel, but the palestinian authority did. what they did get? nothing. since 2013, the israeli government will not even meet with palestinians and what you see today is reaction to several things. first of all, settler terrorist attacks on the west bank that has rev-- has evicted many and settlers in the west bank including 40 children. attacks on the holy sites, the muslim and christian holy sites as well as the declaration of netanyahu that he will liquidate the normalization of our countries and he dared even to go to the united nations and carried into the united nations a map of israel which includes the whole of the west bank, all of gaza, all of jerusalem, as well as the golan heights. he declared annexation of the occupied territories. so palestinians turn to resistance because they see this is the only way for them to get their rights. the question here is not about dehumanizing palestinians as it happening and calling them terrorists, it is about asking the question, why the united states supports ukraine, in fighting what they call occ

there are huge camps of refugees from the palestinian authority, from the palestinian authority, fromo, these are whole cities, but these people do not have lebanese citizenship, they do not pay lebanese taxes, they do not participate in parliamentary and local elections, they simply receive money from the united nations, they cannot pro... as we are citizens of lebanon, and in the gaza sector as well, and in the west bank of the jordan river as well, none of these people among their arab compatriots does not count as people, and when the president of egypt says that he does not want to let them in, this, if translated from the arabic political language into human, political language, means that he does not want to create piles of refugees because he cannot let them in , to say dear, i can. brothers, who are the same as the people who live in the neighboring cities of egypt, come, we will give you, well, not citizenship, but the right to stay, for everything, and you will live in egypt until you can return to your homes , he says, i don't want to create a refugee camp on the territory

but there needs to be a palestinian authority. there needs to be a path to a palestinian state. >> should that be the u.s. policy that hamas is entirely eliminated? >> i think so. when you look at the barberism that occurred last week, the acts that have been well documented on this show and others, you don't negotiate with those people. they must be eliminated, period. but the president made a really unforeseen point here. he appointed out one of the greatest lessons learned of our 20 years of the global war on terror, and frankly some of the biggest mistakes that american meef made over the last 20 years. you can't eliminate a threat like this. you have to make sure you're pushing humanitarian aid, you're being careful, you're not overreacting, you're taking innocent civilians out of harm's way. that's in many instances just as important as how you respond militarily, sometimes more important, to make sure that we're not creating more blowback to our partners and to the united states and to israel. so, we have to make sure that w

hamas may not have recognized israel, but the palestinian authority and the palestinian resistance did. but what do you get in return? nothing since 204, the first of all terrorist attacks by settlers to the palestinians in the west bank, in an act of ethnic cleansing , the palestinians have been expelled from 20 areas. including 40 children who were killed by the israeli army and settlers in the west bank. the attacks of israeli extremists on the holy places of muslims and christians , as well as netanyahu's statements that by normalizing relations with arab countries , he will destroy the rights and ideals of the palestinians. he even dared to go to the united nations and bring a map of israel with him there. it includes the whole of the west bank, the whole of gaza, the whole of quds and the highlands it was jallan. he announced that he will annex the occupied territories to israel. with this description, it is clear that the palestinians are resisting. because they see, this is the only way they have to get their rights. here is the question why america supports ukraine in the figh

and it's costing that a to the palestinian authority would play into the hands and feet. do you said to him, i talked about the, i'll just sarah power as well. this war has been dominating headlines around the world out just there was no, a con has been monitoring these really media's coverage. the headline is, well, it's war is dominating its way. the media fits tv, radio, print, or online as a situation on the ground changes media, outlets of approach the war from different tangles. channel 13 is widely watch in israel. it's website features, personal stories about from the 270 people killed, and others detained by how much vices of the music festival in southern israel on saturday. and the times of his route is connie gets a masika, is showing the 1st born john was being taken to the sites. although they still contents acosta off the israel, close the boat to the output like in some us to savages and says, prime minister benjamin netanyahu is promising a victory and a wolf. israel very existence. and the popular one of website carries reaction from premier league footb

but there needs to be a palestinian authority. there needs to be a path to a palestinian state. >> now those comments as tens of thousands of palestinians flee south after the israeli military urged civilians to leave northern areas of gaza. the palestinian health ministry says more than 2600 people have been killed, including 700 children and is appealing for humanitarian aid as conditions deteriorate in gaza. aid deliveries have been piling up on the egyptian side of the rafah border crossing where thousands of people remain stuck on the gaza side. u.s. secretary of state antony blinken who met with egypt's president said the crucial crossing will be opened. cnn's clare sebastian is following developments and joins me now live from london. good to see you, clare. let's start with conditions in gaza. water, fuel, electricity and more all big concerns. >> shelter, functioning hospitals, really everything that you can think of is running short in the region. and the problem that we have is that this call by israel to evacuate comes

president biden has spoken to both israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and palestinian authorityeffort to de—escalate when speaking to netanyahu, president biden reiterated his condemnation of the attacks by hamas forces. meanwhile in his call with president abbas, biden offered the palestinian authority support for humanitarian assistance to the palestinian people, particularly those in gaza. joining me now is our north america correspondent, shingai nyoka. presidentjoe biden has had separate phone calls with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas? what more do we know about those conversations? two very important calls with two parties on different sides of this conflict. ata at a really important time. we understand according to the white house that president biden really gave prime minister benjamin netanyahu his unwavering support. and this ground offensive is being planned and prepared. he also updated him on the military support that the us has said it will give. we also know that the us has promised it will provide weap

that would include the palestinian authority.t trump said we are cutting you off until you learn how to conduct yourself you're not using our tax dollars for the stuff anymore everything changed. what changed? >> all of his policies were reversed. we are looking, we saw today some of the most barbaric acts against jewish people that we have seen since the holocaust. very, very difficult to watch. i'm in and out of shelters all day long. civilians murdered pulled out of their homes expensive highly sophisticated at tech by transient with lethal equipment. how did hamas get all that stuff? they don't earn any money it is a terrorist organization. they get the money from iran which we are now appeasing and facilitating and taking our list lifting sentients emboldening them and making them even richer. we are giving ironic money to help hamas. the palestinian authority we they are getting it now because the biden administration has refresh that. teachers palestinian in the gaza strip to hate israel. puts on the kids five or 10 years

that would include the palestinian authority. so president trump said we are cutting you off until you learn how to conduct yourself you're not using our tax dollars for the stuff anymore everything changed. what changed? >> all of his policies were reversed. we are looking, we saw today some of the most barbaric acts against jewish people that we have seen since the holocaust. very, very difficult to watch. i'm in and out of shelters all day long. civilians murdered pulled out of their homes expensive highly sophisticated at tech by transient with lethal equipment. how did hamas get all that stuff? they don't earn any money it is a terrorist organization. they get the money from iran which we are now appeasing and facilitating and taking our list lifting sentients emboldening them and making them even richer. we are giving ironic money to help hamas. the palestinian authority we they are getting it now because the biden administration has refresh that. teachers palestinian in the gaza strip to hate israel. puts on the kids five

you mention the palestinian authority. ght to defend themselves. then;r right to defend themselves. they sav- -- that _ right to defend themselves. they sav- -- that is _ right to defend themselves. they say... that is not _ right to defend themselves. he say... that is not anything right to defend themselves. tie say... that is not anything terribly new from the national authority, but the key thing to point out is how disenfranchised they are, the palestinian people. they are so disillusioned by the leadership on the west bank, and there has obviously been this long running split, this feud between hamas in power in gaza, and the palestinian authority in power in the west bank. there is nothing mahmoud abbas says that makes any difference to an angry young man in the gaza strip? and it is my exteriors when there is these flare—ups, not to mention short wards in gaza, it is good for hamas popularity, perhaps only in the short term, but it certainly boosts their credibility in gaza and the west bank. there were elections wa

maybe hamas did not recognize israel, but the palestinian authority and the palestinian resistance did, but what did they get in return? nothing since 2014 , israeli governments have not even met with the palestinians, and what you see today is a reaction to several things. first of all, the terrorist attacks of the settlers on the palestinians in the west bank, which in an act of ethnic cleansing , have so far driven the palestinians out of 20 areas. palestinians including 40 children who were killed by the israeli army and the settlers. they were killed in the west bank. attacks by israeli extremists on the holy places of muslims and christians, as well as netanyahu's statement that by normalizing relations with arab countries , he will destroy the rights and ideals of the palestinians. he even dared to go to the united nations and take a map of israel with him there, which included the entire west bank, the entire gaza, the entire qat and the jallan heights. he announced that he will annex the occupied territories to israel. with this description, it is clear that the palestinians a

but there needs to be a palestinian authority. there needs to be a pass to a palestinian state or work together to make sure that to the best of our ability this cost with is not spread. a possible reason for the us shift may be a consequence of anthony blinking discussions in his meeting with a gyptian president of delphi, l. c. c r o bank. the at is written, the action was made public. this is a huge crisis and i am concerned that these really reaction exceeded the right to self defense and turned into a collective punishment of the gaza strip, which has 2300000 palestinians in doha, the o ring in foreign minister and that the image of guitar tell me being how my belt on the who maintains relations with all parties to the conflict in an interview with alex is the era in ron's top. diplomat said he's country will not remain a bystander. israel continues attacking. gaza ation will stand better. so say, if the message is aiming at immediately stopping these really occupations attacks that are killing children in the palestinian terr

israeli captives are being held by hamas gunmen inside gaza, do you now, representing the palestinian authoritybeginning of this conversation you claimed was still the voice of the palestinian people — are you prepared to say here and now, those people, those captives, must be released without precondition? i am prepared to tell you that we want to see all captives and hostages released immediately, and their safety must be kept. yes, of course, we stick to our commitments under international law and we want that to happen. all those. but we also have... hang on, when you say all, you are clearly implying that there should be a deal between the palestinian prisoners held in israeli prisons... deal or no deal, israel has been rounding people illegally. there are many who are there for years without trial or charge. there are children. there are old people. there are women, yes. there are women being held in tunnels under gaza today. do you call upon those who hold them to release them without condition, now? rules, international rules must be applied here, 0k? and we have been calling for the re

look, our allies jordan, egypt, palestinian authority, these are frontline states right now dealing with the impact of the strike. but they also do have a moral obligation to assusupport the palestinians in the conflict zone. and exitigetting the aid in, th a dance that has taken up to a week where secretary blinken is trying to found a way to open up the gates and let the aid in. and israelis as well finally turned on the water after president biden pushed and asked for them to do that as well. but jordan, the king is under deep pressure politically at home. there are majority of palestinians in jordan. but all that said and done, there has to be a way for them to provide support for the palestinian people in gaza for survival purposes. but israel will mount a ground offensive. and if the palestinian people are not protected at the front end, it will only get more desperate. >> and of course the chaos this washington, the administration preparing a request for aid to israel, but still no speaker of the house. >> no speaker meaning no assistance to the israeli military, no additional ame

i mean, in cities like ramelle or in the sensor, it is controlled by the palestinian authority launch. either a no settlements in the center of the city, so people have sort of more freedom of movement. but moving in between cities in the west bank has become increasingly hard. checkpoints have been posted ex, check points, has been put up the people talking about the, the, the dire situation today, just daily lives, the finding things a lot hotter, but also there is a huge amount of fee there as well. people worried that that, that the west bank is also going to be distract into this complex. i said in the report that it sofa hasn't really bain a focal point for the israeli military. but that they have both the troops that definitely on keeping an eye on that area or. and as we saw last night carrying out strikes, we to another one on thursday and another refugee camp. so the south engine named. so it is something that the user in the military are concerned about and, and residents as well. i mentioned also the distrust of the pay a, well, i've been reporting in the west bank for awh

the palestinian authority allows. hamasto be there that is the real problem, when you have the palestinian authority allowing a terrorist organization that only in the territory that supporting and deleting actions. that is what makes it dangerous for palestinians everywhere. israel has done everything to come to a place where they can have a two state solution, but any time you are cooperating with terrorists it causes instability and great death to everyone surrounded by it. host: former speaker kevin mccarthy called on joe biden to freeze $6 billion in iranian funds in wake of the attacks by hamas. your thoughts on that move? is that where you would like to see the administration go? guest: it is more disappointment from kevin mccarthy. at the end of the day, we understand that no iranian money was used toward this terrorist attack. i am disappointed by republicans trying to say that the iranian money that biden allowed them to freeze, they had access to it. we all know that iranian money was never used, and when i