not just the palestinians. we should fight arabs and jews to preserve that. >> my opinion is that both sides, people are tired, fatigued and brainwashed and they will not reeble in a way that they would march? the streets. people are saying i care about my four corners and my garden, and it's out of my control and i don't see this rebellion happening. >> clearly i'm the optimist of 2002 of us. in fact, i believe that rather than creating two separate states, one israeli and one palestinian, that we should have a one-state solution where everyone shares in the same land and has equal rights. i know i'm in the minority with this idea. still, the situation in the west bank and in israel is so complicated now that you have a scrambled situation, where the israelis are living amongst palestinians, and palestinians are living amongst israelis, and the question really is how to separate the two people. one of the israeli intellectuals that dealt with this binational situation which we are in is the former deputy mayor

and the solution will leave palestinians with nothing. the palestinian side was reasonable. they presented negotiations which said we will allow israel to annex 2% of the west bank, but on that 2% or more than 60% settlers.llers -- we will let them keep 60% or more in place. they did their best to be reasonable and within the framework of international law. israel gets 2% of the west bank, palestinians get 2% of israel, a one-for-1 swap. the israeli-american position, one that indyk formulates, and is just an echo of the israeli position, is that you will leave the west bank fragmented down the middle, in the north, they move -- lose the water, the most arable land, they lose east jerusalem. there is no palestinian state without east jerusalem. called greaters east do so for some -- jerusalem, that account for 40% of the economy. there is the palestinian state if israel annexes east jerusalem. the problem is how this will all be sold. people do not know the facts, and it is frustrating when you are watching what is happening. israel claims it wants all the west bank. that is

palestinian there are some streets palestinians can't use at all others they can walk on but not drive and still others they can access only with a permit it's to make sure the seven hundred. grady's who live among two hundred thousand palestinians in hebron can move around safely although his brand is the second oldest and largest palestinian city it's also the second most holy site to jews after the western wall iran is the first true city in the land of israel this is the very roots not only of judaism but of monotheism. just down the road it's the second holiest site of the jewish people in all the world and only since we've come back everybody wants access to that holy sorry. fable to go in and worship there these radios justify the road closures arguing they protect the cities who live here but palestinians say it's often done for no other reason than to make their lives difficult and you have the in the soldiers prevent me from crossing for no reason it depends on their mood whenever they feel like if they refuse this commission. one of abu ayyub she's arab neighbors have left t

the palestinian refugees will be resettled in the palestinian state and the palestinian state is going to have to recognize the legitimacy and permanence of the israeli jewish state. >> michael oren, pleasure to have you on, thank you so much. >>> up next the palestinian point of view, stay with us. ♪ [ female announcer ] when your swapportunity comes, take it. ♪ what? what? what? [ female announcer ] yoplait. it is so good. pcentury link provides reliable yit services like multi-layered security solution to keep your information safe & secure. century link. your link with what's next. humans. even when we cross our "ts" and dot our "i's", we still run into problems. that's why liberty mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness with our auto policies. if you qualify, your rates won't go up due to your first accident. because making mistakes is only human, and so are we. we also offer new car replacement, so if you total your new car, we'll give you the money for a new one. call liberty mutual insurance at... and ask us all about our auto features, like guaranteed repairs, where if yo

the palestinian refugees will be resettled in the palestinian state and the palestinian state is going to have to recognize the legitimacy and permanence of the israeli jewish state. >> michael oren, pleasure to have you on, thank you so much. >>> up next the palestinian point of view, stay with us. [ male announcer ] what?! investors could lose tens of thousands of dollars in hidden fees on their 401(k)s?! go to e-trade and roll over your old 401(k)s to a new e-trade retirement account. none of them charge annual fees and all of them offer low cost investments. e-trade. less for us. more for you. ♪ hooking up the country whelping business run ♪ ♪ trains! they haul everything, safely and on time. ♪ tracks! they connect the factories built along the lines. and that means jobs, lots of people, making lots and lots of things. let's get your business rolling now, everybody sing. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪ peace of mind is important when so we provide it services you bucan rely on. with

we're going to keep building settlements and taking over whatever parts of the palestinian territories that we want and that's precisely why the peace process failed and then you had another round same thing with the roadmap under president bush you had the idea that there was going to be a roadmap to a two state solution and israel disregarded the negotiations and kept building settlements on the ground and we've seen this over and over again so until israel is willing to show that it's actually interested in the least and ending the occupation of the palestinian territories these negotiations are obviously going to be meaningless i mean just listen to the neo government all the statements that they're saying they want to come to the negotiations without precondition but they're not willing to talk about the sixty seven borders they're not willing to talk about settlements they're not willing to talk about refugees i think it would take really exceptional going to destroy something to put on the product over this process and then only as they are talking about refugees they got to the

we should learn to live with the palestinians. >> israeli and palestinian envoys are expected to meet in washington in the coming weeks for initial talks. >> russian opposition activist alexi is back in moscow. he was free from jail yesterday just 24 hours after he was slapped with a five-year prison sentence. hundreds of his supporters were on hand to greet him after his return to the capital. if your script of the kremlin, he said he will push ahead with his plan to become moscow's mayor. he returned to a hero's welcome. he was released from jail pending his appeal. it rolled keeping him behind bars would limit his right to be elected. he is running for mayor of moscow. he thanked all of those who had protested against his conviction. >> you brought down and destroy the greatest privilege the kremlin never has. their religion right to take any person, arrest him on the spot so that person is lost. you made it possible for us to be let out the day after the trial. i do. navalny's conviction still stands. he was found guilty in a lumber deal, trumped up charges he say were to silence

palestinians in hebron are no strangers to vote blocks here in hebron the streets are a maze if you palestinian there are some streets palestinians can't use at all others they can walk on but not drive and still others they can access only with a permit it's to make sure the seven hundred israelis who live among two hundred thousand palestinians in hebron can move around safely although hebron is the second oldest and largest palestinian city it's also the second most holy site to jews after the western wall around it's a frustration in the land of israel this is the very root not only of judaism but of monotheism. just down the road as the second holiest site of the jewish people in all the world and only since we've come back because everybody wants access to the whole sorry. fable to go in and worship there these radios justify the road closures arguing they protect the settlers who live here but palestinians say it's often done for no other reason than to make their lives. and you have the often soldiers prevent me from crossing for no reason it depends on their mood whenever they feel lik

territories in exchange for peace of the palestinians and that's the quintessential problem here until there is any kind of and also there's going to be a stretcher make to try and the. territories this is not going to go down ok fred go ahead fred or no no i'm. ok here's where israel gave back everything to egypt but egypt was willing to recognize israel. recognize israel send them bass's exchange and the state of war and everything you know just how it's money just don't have a say how can they do that if they don't have a state fred i mean really but they can they have the they have a state in the making they have leadership they can make whatever agreements they want to now the point that or the one thing they are just like to state about international law or this international law which governs israel israel tried to tries to what here has all my rever heard of the the tomb conference following the one nine hundred sixty seven war all the arab the arab league including palestinian representatives made it clear to the israel's no negotiations nothing no peace no negotiations it was

they say, if we partner with the palestinians, the palestinians have to absorb the refugees, their descendents of people who used to live in what is today israel. will not of an accord radically alter the demographic balance of israel and change it into something other than a majority jewish state. a practical declaration from the palestinians, i do not think most israelis are obsessed with that, but the terms of an accord have to be such that israel is not flooded with millions of descendents of palestinian refugees, because that would be the end of israel as the planet's only majority jewish state. >> on the issue of settlements in the occupied territories, the palestinians again have maintained this line that as long as settlements continue to be built on this land, israel is not serious about making peace with us. that was another of the palestinians preconditions. they demanded to other things. they demanded that talks take place on the basis of the pre- 1967 lines, and israel freeze all settlement building. netanyahu gave ground on the prisoner issue. if there is to be an accord, it is i

israeli justice minister tzipi livni and palestinian negotiator met in washington. secretary of state john kerry mediated. he said they will hold talks in two weeks either in israel or the palestinian territories. >> i can assure you that in these negotiations, it's not our intention to argue about the past, but to create solutions and make decisions for the future. >> it's time for the palestinian people to have an independent, sovereign state of their own. >> the negotiations to create the state that palestinians have longed for have had many stops and starts. the palestinians quit the last round of talks in 2010 the to protest against the expansion of israeli settlements. they came back to the table after israeli leaders agreed to release palestinian prisoners who had been jailed for more than 20 years. here's how people on both sides view the resumption of the talks. >> reporter: this woman lives in the bethlehem city on the west bank. her son has been in prison in israel for nearly three decades. he is serving two life sentences for killing two israelis. he sai

has pushed for israeli palestinian peace talks washington has left hamas out of the score the palestinian militant group has governed the gaza strip since of those voted into power back in two thousand and seven but it has also been classified by some countries as a terrorist organization although hussain from the hamas interior ministry says that leaving the group out of the talks is a serious mistake actually this is a new call for the policy an israeli negotiation is coming from the american administration so they can want to make some. in this special that mr obama didn't do anything in this case it during the last period these negotiation will fade especially that israelis will give nothing for the palestinians and the only thing they're looking for their security. and. actually is not. given the right to from the palestinian to negotiate and to give a glance and. constant cases so we have our tea what i have give you a chance to weigh and then let us know what you think about the israel palestinian talks you can vote online at r.t. dot com let's take a look at how those of you who h

the other two components are palestinian politics and israeli politics. i think therein lies the major challenge. with the president palestinian make-up, the president clearly is engaged, he has faced some resistance even at the levels of his executive committees and central committees, but also common rejection or lack of support in the media. there is the division between hamas and fatah and divisions between fatah itself and there are divisions within fatah and the other factions, so it is very hard to see something immediately responding to this initiative by the secretary of state. >> rose: okay. >> there is a real problem in that department. >> rose: i want to come back to all of this. some people raise this question. why is the secretary of state spending time on this seemingly intractable issue when you have got a war in syria and an egypt, you have got a government that you do not know where it is going and what its components are? you know, one of the things that are going for this administration for secretary kerry and the president is that the

for israeli palestinian peace talks washington has left hamas out of the score a palestinian militant group has governed the gaza strip since two thousand and seven but it has also been classified by some countries as a terrorist organization how are you saying from the hamas interior ministry says leaving the group out of talks is a serious mistake. actually this is a new call for policy and it's really negotiation is coming from the american administration so they can want to make some. special is that mr obama didn't do anything in this case it during the last period negotiation will fail especially that israelis will give nothing for the palestinians and the only thing they're looking for the security. and. actually is not given the right to from the palestinian to negotiate and to give up the lands and. the sea and constant cases. coming up down to a drone diplomacy in the run up to presidential elections on manned airstrikes by the u.s. are keeping pakistan on edge is the new government serious about halting the strikes stay tuned to find out. with. its technology innovation all

-palestinian officials average an agreement for resuming peace talks. a group of world leaders have been brought together by the former south african president nelson mandela to work on peace and human rights. this is just under an hour. >> good afternoon. thank you all for coming. we are honored to have with us so many distinguished members of the club, even though the elders club has been formed six years ago by president mandela of south africa, this is the first public event for the club and we are very honored it takes place in washington. of course, we have with us president carter. i do not need to go through the introduction. and the u.n. envoy to syria. president ahtisaari is also -- a nobel laureate. future hopes to be a nobel laureate. [laughter] this event could not have been more opportune given the announcement friday the delegation is visiting washington at the start of this planned engagement. members will explore how they can be helpful. from washington, they would go directly to london meeting with -- meetings in beijing and paris will

it also considers the palestinian authority's return to negotiations as a way out of the palestinian stance on this matter. >> one term of the agreement is for israel ro to release a number of prisoners a longstanding demand. in jeruzzlem the news was met with a mixture of approval and skepticism. >> i don't think it will make a difference. i hope it will. this kind n favor of of negotiation. i believe that we should learn to live with the palestinians. >> envoys are expected to meet in washington in the coming weeks for talks. .> we're joined on the line tanya how significant is the release of these prisoners? >> it's a very important topic for many palestinians. as we understand, there will be this limited number of palestinian prisoners that will be released in stages. some in jails for many years. this is one of the major demands the leadership in the west bank made to restart talks and there will be also internally measured on how many palestinian prisoners they can get released. >> are we likely to see them as well make concessions? >> yes. it is understood that the palestinian

in gaza against the palestinians within the borders of sixty seven against the palestinians. within the west bank the only resolution is on the basis of such a struggle that's the way justice can actually be to be taken that's not an action against peace is that action for peace and the idea you just i mean aggressive acts . is not what has happened here the aggressive act is the expansion of settlements the rabi part is the you know home well because that's what an aggressive act is taking place here well gentlemen i think the discussion here really symbolizes just how difficult it is to move forward in this in this case thank you so much parliament member paul murphy and the jerusalem post chief political correspondent gil hoffman thank you both. washington is considering whether to use military force in syria and this was revealed by a u.s. army general during a senate testimony who said that the options for a military intervention were in fact already on the table now this is as syria faces the prospect of terrorist forces gaining overwhelming control over the country's n

the palestinian people and the israeli people want peace enough, i think as far as the palestinians are concerned, the river valley was never mentioned as being controlled by israel until bill clinton was in office. we anticipated that israel would be torn from all of palestine. east of the green land borders. that is a difference now. i am not sure there will ever accept israel controlling the jordan river valley as well as a major portion of the west bank. they are talking about land swaps. i met with one of the most conservative leaders, and he pointed out a land swap that was intriguing that the audience might find interesting. they were going to israel, and let them have it. that acreage of land would be granted to form a corridor between gaza and the west bank. on the corridor would be a railroad and a highly -- and a highway. it looks like a very wonderful future possibility that might occur. these things that you mentioned are very effective. i don't think there is any amount of refugee returning to israel except the very few families for a handful or a dozen with a token respon

or many palestinians, it's all about family. the prisoners are seen as freedom fighters as well as brothers, sons and husbands. ago, israel released more than 1000 palestinian prisoners in exchange for the freedom of one israeli soldier. the palestinians chief negotiator welcome the cabinet decision. on tuesday, parliamentary talks in washington are set to pave the way for up to nine months of these talks. we will have more on that later, but first kuwait has voted in a new parliament. this was their second trip to the polls in eight months. judges ruled that the vote in last december was flawed. early results from the saturday boat show that liberals, sunni and veteran candidates one big while sunni candidates lost out. most boycotted the vote, angry over a new electronic system that they say disadvantage them. polls closed just over one hour ago in mali, where voters shrugged off death threats i radical islamists to flood polling stations. many people are hoping the presidential election will restore stability to the country f

on monday evening the prime minister netanyahu has cabinet votes to be one hundred four palestinian prisoners. and the diplomatic wrangling over edward snowden takes a new twist as washington rules out the death penalty for the man who exposed the spying secrets is still stuck in transit limbo at a moscow airport. a i. live from moscow are you watching r t with me tomorrow monday let's take a look at the news this hour. another surge of connor's has rocked iraq with two hundred and twelve lives lost during the violence over the past seven days in july alone a staggering eight hundred people were killed in the country that has become a breeding ground for terrorists since the u.s. led invasion a decade ago and the war has also left a disturbing legacy of contamination which results in birth defects artie's lucy catherine off investigates. one hundred sixty kilometers south of baghdad the sacred shiite city is known for its holy shrines and is surrounded by one of the largest cemeteries in the world some of the heaviest fighting of the iraq war took place amid these graves its legacy

israeli and palestinian negotiators have agreed to meet again within two weeks. as a verycribed positive meeting with u.s. president barack obama. u.s. whistleblower bradley manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy but guilty of other charges including espionage and theft. the group has accused the party and members of the authority of running a malicious campaign against it. an official says elements within the interim egyptian government also colluded with their opponents to demonize them. worried about what he describes as conspiracies against egypt and other countries. documents show those fears could well be growing. the group says it has proof that the rival parties are trying to further destabilize the jet and make it look like hamas is to blame. claim a memo sent to the security at cachet in cairo refers to four bombs marked with the insignia that was strong -- smuggled with the help of operatives. it reads, with regards to an earlier cable, noticed that the bombs have arrived in egypt. this needs to be used to implicate them in the recent acts of vio

a long delayed peace negotiations between israel and the palestinians are finally started to restart in washington on monday evening after prime minister netanyahu cabinet very soon release one hundred four palestinian prisoners. and the diplomatic wrangling over edward snowden takes a new twist as washington rules out the death penalty for the man whose expose it spying secrets he's still stuck in trance and live at a moscow airport. oh . welcome to our d.m. to obama day with the week's top stories as well as today's. another surge of condit has brought to iraq with a two hundred twelve lives lost during the violence over the past seven days now in july alone a staggering eight hundred people were killed in the country that's become a breeding ground for terrorists since the u.s. led invasion a decade ago and the war has also left a disturbing legacy of contamination which results in birth defects artie's boosie calf enough investigates. not just. one hundred sixty kilometers south of baghdad the sacred shiite city is known for its holy shrines and is surrounded by one of the larges

and long delayed peace we go chieftains between israel and the palestinians are finally set to restart in washington monday evening the prime minister netanyahu is cabinet varies to release one hundred four palestinian prisoners. and to the diplomatic wrangling over edward snowden takes a new twist as washington rules out the death penalty for the man who exposed that spine secrets is still stuck in transit limbo at a moscow airport. from moscow you're watching r.t. for this week's top stories as well as other weeklies and another surge of carnage has all rocked iraq with a two hundred and twelve lives were lost during the violence over the past seven days now in july alone a staggering eight hundred people were killed in the country that's become a breeding ground for terrorists since the u.s. led invasion decade ago and the war has also left a disturbing legacy of contamination which results in birth defects artie's musica and off investigates. one hundred sixty kilometers south of baghdad the sacred shiite city is known for its holy shrines and is surrounded by one of the largest ce

the palestinian -- excuse me, do not have a mandate from the palestinian people as a whole. and and administer -- and you have an american institution that has been abject to provide israel with more military aid, more diplomatic cover than ever. it is unable even to get the israelis to utter the words 1967 borders. when you add that together, you have a formula for definite failure. this is simply a charade which is suitable, which suits the three parties for the time being , but will not lead to anything substantial whatsoever. >> you have brought up important points, in particular the issue of the illegal israeli as well as jerusalem, the right of return for palestinians, all critical issues to the peace process and sticking points between the two sides. how much pressure can the united states put on israel to budge on these issues? >> it could put a lot of pressure if it wanted to, but it it does not and it will not. the obama administration has ieen the most pro-israel administration in american history. this obama administration has gradually abandoned even the rhetori

could actually have negative consequences for the palestinians. it's hard to imagine that actually i mean most palestinians seem to be reporting it as a political and a moral victory if only for the i mean it's unlikely that the actual financial cost to israel of this shift in guidelines will be that huge but was what it has done is just set a precedent whereby the european union has said it's ok to principles with lol it's ok to say we oppose israel's occupation of the palestinian territories and to inflict penalties and consequences if israel complete continues to flout that international law now but is is kind of a precedent setting move that could in fact have great positive consequences for the palestinians as the international community might start to follow suit on a more sort of independent nation by nation basis but do you think that israel is really going to be actually abandoning its settlements especially given the makeup of the government as you heard earlier pointed out i mean don't you think that it might take what exactly would it

fate the fact that palestinians don't have a say in the matter is astonishing to me friends palestinian friends of mine in jerusalem don't even have the right to vote for a government in this case even though got this government controls their lives from a to z. in fact. they're being pushed out of town to the extent of high unemployment rates poverty almost fifty percent drop out of schools all as a result of israeli policies inside israeli parliament. head of the likud the likud party council netanyahu own party has already declared that the likud will block it and yellow if there is if he pushes a two state solution the campaigns i wish more people could could read hebrew the campaigns for the last election. were about especially around the study bennett's jewish home party by the u. d. he campaigned on who can an extended day in some area basically area see sixty over sixty two percent of the west bank to israel internally politicians are not discussing a two state solution this is more of. a pose for the rest of the world to continue to support the current status quo the current st

the long delayed peace negotiations between israel and the palestinians are finally set and we start in washington monday evening after climate isn't adding up his cabinet voted to reduce one hundred four palestinian prisoners. and the diplomatic wrangling over edward snowden takes a new twist as washington rules out the death penalty for the man who exposed the spy secrets are still stuck in transit limb but at a mosque or if. they are. you're watching our teaser for this week's top stories as well as today with me to them with. another surge of carnage has rocked iraq with two hundred and twelve the lives lost during the violence over the last seven days in july alone a staggering eight hundred people were killed in the country that's become a breeding ground for terrorists since the u.s. led invasion a decade ago and the war has also left a disturbing legacy of contamination the which results in birth defects are. we best to get. hundred and sixty kilometers south of baghdad the sacred shiite city is known for its holy shrines and is surrounded by one of the largest cemeteries in

or palestinians are talking. i try to gets a call. he would not do it. he committed himself to this radio silence the government and which you have elements that of prose his peace policy, not to have any leaks it's pretty remarkable. >> john kerry may be ambitious and have aspirations for an agreement. froms heard something netanyahu this is something they are not able to convey to the other or they are not able to say topically. it leads them to believe that this negotiation has a chance. this is imploding well. have a the injured shins bitter confrontation between the military and islam is. . .ll of these areas are bad the one area that is curiously and strangely quiet as this one. you in youre got optimistic mode any set on peace negotiations that have all those there and then they'll, are you saying that you think these feast of gauche nations have a chance of succeeding and nine months with all of these issues on the table? the prospects is a conflict ending agreement. i think the goal in nine months is una

the palestinians are extending their bid for u.n.ecurity council recognition while the israelis will release more than 100 palestinian prisoners as a show of good faith. what's more, both sides have promised the americans they will not quit at the least provocation. as an incentive, the u.s. and its quartet partners have created a $4 billion private investment package to bolster the palestinian economy and by extension, israel's, too. senior u.s. officials say the two sides embraced at the start of the talks in what they all a -- call a sign of trust and will need it in the next nine months when they have to show how much they're willing to sacrifice for peace and independence. roslind jordan. >> there is a rise of civilians killed and wounded in afghanistan. it says the total number of deaths and injuries rose by 23% in the first six months of the year to more than 3,800 compared to the same period in 2012. of those casualties, among women and children, they climbed by 38%. the number of children killed went up by 30% and the report